Making Concealed Carry Difficult

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by 34sail, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. 34sail

    34sail New Member

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    After the wife and I got the kids through college and out of the house and we had some time, we were able to devote some time shooting, getting our Concealed Carry in Ohio. Looking for a sidearm that my wife could operate (she has some strength limitations) we found ourselves with collectible firearms. We have been warned that it would be a shame if we were involved in a shooting incident with these firearms because the police confiscate your firearm and by the time you get it back, it's garbage. It seems police forces are not very careful with others' property and that the environment in police evidence lockers is not very friendly to gun metal.

    So we now keep the good sidearms for the range and display and carry firearms that are good but would not be missed if confiscated. Add to this the fact that the City of Cleveland is not complying with Ohio Concealed Carry laws and continues arresting people carrying sidearms legally (in accordance with Ohio law) in the City of Cleveland. You may be right but only after several trips to the courts and several thousands spend on an attorney defending yourself.

    This also brings up another issue. Trying to comply with the various sections of the Ohio (and probably other states) Concealed Carry law drives me crazy. If you attempt to combine your trips, for example, the grocery store, drop your mother off at the adult day care, get a meal at a restaurant, and pick your son up from his college classes, you have a problem putting on and removing your sidearm. It looks real awkward removing your belt while seated behind the wheel of a vehicle. You are prohibited from carrying in places caring for adults or children and restaurants typically have liquor licenses which is a no-no of concealed carry. Schools, hospitals, colleges prohibit sidearms by law. Ohio law was recently changed so you could carry on school property of you were not getting out of your car. I think it is one of those situations where the lawmakers make the laws so inconvenient that you just give up.

    Please feel free to comment or criticize.

    34sail
     
  2. 1861

    1861 New Member

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    Dang , glad I live in Pennsylvania.
     

  3. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    34sail carry options

    +1-1861====Sail, we all face the limitations on our CCW permits in different ways. One thing to look at, though, is that it wasn't that long ago that Ohio citizens could not carry at ALL! We are looking at progress here, right? When I know that I will be in/out of gun-friendly areas, I often go Commando with my firearm==No holster-just tuck in at my side, or behind my back. Yes less comfortable, yes less secure, but, yes ARMED:D On the other hand, My 3032 Tomcat hardly ever leaves my rear pocket, and is not spotted in places that may be semi-un-gun friendly:p
     
  4. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    Dang that sucks. I live in Indiana and I put my gun on and it stay's on all day long. The only time I take my gun off is when I getting ready to go into the shop at work, when I'm working for a friend on side jobs (it would really suck to drop a perfectly good 1911 in sloppy wet concrete) or when I go into my house.

    I don't have a kid yet (wife is 7 months pregnant) so I don't have to worry about schools yet.
     
  5. canebrake

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    Another reason I'm glad I left Ohio! [​IMG]
     
  6. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Makes me glad to be in Texas...
     
  7. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    I recently got Clipdraws for 3 of my carry guns and will give yall a review as soon as I determine wether they're the best thing since sliced bread, or total waste of money, or somewhere in between. I DO know my wife LOVES her Clipdraw on her S&W model 442. For those of you needing to know what a Clipdraw is-it's a spring steel clip that goes on right side of handgun ( right handers) for IWB carry with NO holster of any kind. The clip securely holds the handgun inside your waistband or wherever you decide to clip it to.
     
  8. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Well, welcome to carrying mexican Bear!

    For $9.95 it's the best 'bang for the buck' in concealed carry rigs!

    It's what I use for my Colt Defender. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  9. stalkingbear

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    I've done Mexican carry before, but very limited and not with satisfactory results. The gun either tries to poke a butt shaped hole in my gut, the front sight digs into places I favor to keep in 1 piece, or small guns try to fall down more. This clipdraw should be the answer.
     
  10. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I had a clip-draw on my Kel Tec P3AT. I didn't like it. You will find it difficult to draw your pistol in a hurry, at least I did.
     
  11. Stone

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    I recently got my CCW in Ohio and the common sense instructor informed us that Ohio had, by far, the stupidest carry laws of any state in the country. I have been around guns my entire life and even though I have the permit I will not carry in Ohio.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2009
  12. 34sail

    34sail New Member

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    I'm thinking to moving to Kentucky. The weather's better there too.

    34sail
     
  13. WDB

    WDB New Member

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    I carry in a comfrontable holster and if I'm going into a place that doesn't allow firearms I put the pistol in the lock box and leave the holster in place. If that business happenens to be a city/state or federal building or an airport I also remove the holster but in most cases just putting the gun in the box and leaving the holster in place will not be an issue. Ity might seem hard to carry but it's even harder to to be a victim so carry all the time and lock up your pistol when you have to go into a place where you can't carry.
     
  14. 34sail

    34sail New Member

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    WBD,

    Thanks for your post with a common sense approach!

    34sail
     
  15. freefall

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    I have read several times, mostly by Massad Ayoob, that "good guys carry their guns in holsters, bad guys carry them in their pants". He seems to think that most cops will form a first and lasting impression of you from that fact, should it become necessary for them to become aware that you're carrying. Of course, most bad guys don't get CCWs either.
     
  16. Darth AkSarBen

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    Cross Breed holster I carry is easy to get the pistol out and leave in the car hidden, even while seated, EVEN while wearing a seat belt. Since my job recently came up with a no guns allowed on premise by employees (gee wonder who told!!) I have had to leave the pistol in the car during work. I have to leave it behind going to the post office as well. Should do away with the N.F.A. laws entirey as they did no good. Michigan is a bit better.