Mag capacity or stopping power

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by JMAtactical, Jul 9, 2012.

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  1. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    I was just on another thread talking about the 1911. A very good firearm but not a favorite or even on my future buy list. Only because if i get into a sit which i have once before where i need many rounds to supress a target from killing me or my wife i cant depend on nine rounds. I used two 19 round mags in my Glock 17 in the mountains when some drunk teens started shooting at usbfor fun and laughing. When i started firing back they ran off after i was almost done with mag two. It make me sick to think people of this level of scum have guns but they do. I am thankful i had many rounds to get the point across even from almost sixty yards away that i wasnt playing. So how about you... More rounds or bigger bore
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    as that i have many different pistols in amny different calibers and some in the same caliber. i do have more pistols in 45 acp than any other though. i do have one high capacity 9mm which holds 17 rounds and my SA XDm40 holds 16. IMO, it's a toss-up and i feel safe with whichever pistol i am using. my 44 Mag only holds 5 rounds, but i have a buttload of speedloaders for it! the debate in capacity vs. caliber comes down to the pro's and con's of each. size comparison for CC is an issue some look at when making theese choices.

    personally, i say practice what you use and depend on accurate shot placement, vs. worrying about ammo capacity or caliber choices. because doesn't matter how many rounds your pistol carries or how big a caliber it shoots, it won't mean diddly squat if you can't hit your target.
     

  3. sputnik1988

    sputnik1988 Active Member

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    Bigger bore, more magazines.;)
     
  4. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    Lol how did i know bud. I can truly appriciate a large round. I myself carry a .40 as well as a 9mm but in all i cant stop myself from needing the extra rounds. Maybe it stems from the above mentioned incident that was almost a lethal use of force. Maybe its my tactical background but hear this. The first 30 seconds of conact are the most important moments. I cant be reloading or rumning out of ammo in that time. The theory or thinking that if you must pull in a sit that it will end quickly or as you planned in something i have been taught over and over. I do love the 1911 but i love it as a range weapon amd not as a hd or pdw
     
  5. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    Wow forgive my horrible spelling this is a new phone lol
     
  6. rjd3282

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    Your problem isn't capacity, it's weapon and caliber choice. A glock 17 for the mountains/woods? I like my semi auto as much as the next guy but if I'm going to the wild areas, I'm carrying a big bore revolver that will reach out and touch something at 60 yards.
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    exactly! you don't go elephant hunting with a 22lr or rat hunting with a 500 Nitro! choose the firearm suited for the job at hand. 1911 mags don't really take up a lot of room and most people will never need 25-35 rounds of ammo for a SD type situation.
     
  8. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    If that really happened you need a lot of practice. If someone was shooting at me even at 60 yards, after I fired 38 rounds I would have hit several people.
     
  9. JMAtactical

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    This was a shooting trip not hunting or camping. I was only aimig to supress the kids shooting at us. Its not about my sit its more about my experienced personal choice. The difference i see when talking to a lot of shooters is that people forget about drop and energy. Im just saying more gun shots instilled more fear in this sit. If i wanted to kill i would have trust that
     
  10. JMAtactical

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    Also let me point out that a bigger round isnt always better. Take combat for example. Our standard nato round is a 556 and that is very small compared to the 7.62 by 39 most threats have in our current situation. So that in mind i have a hard time seeing how i have to carry a big bore weapon. I dont care what north american animal or human it is. If i shoot it with 19 9mm rounds its going down lol. Thats my point. I never want to out rounds on a target unless hostile intent is deadly force and not a lets mess with the city folk situation
     
  11. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    And to you sir i say thank you but i am well versed and practiced in many different platforms from many different shooting and tactical positions. I just have my agenda as do the rest of you.
     
  12. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I just cant imagine almost running out of ammo trying to scare someone away while they were shooting at me and my wife. I dont carry to scare people. I carry to defend myself and my own.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    personally i think you are a train wreck looking for a place to happen. and with that situation occuring as you said it happened, you could find yourself in a bunch of trouble very quickly.

    drop and energy? how far you plan on shooting at someone with a pistol for drop and energy loss become factors? most SD shootings are going to be up close and personal. if you are shooting at someone at such a distance that drop and energy loss are issues, i see some really, really big trouble coming your way.

    bigger round isn't always better? in who's eyes? yours? bigger is better, period. bigger hole, faster blood loss. i think you need to re-evaluate your thinking and your responses as you are seriously sounding like someone who know nothing about ballistics, firearms or common sense.
     
  14. JMAtactical

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    So your saying you would rather end contact with deadly force and possible jail time over forcing the contact to end by show of force. In this sit only i dis agree but in a urban setting with a gun drawn its much less likely they are drunk and saw us walking by amd decide to take pot shots at me. I would put any threat down if the intent was to kill me. However i did not feel they were i felt they were drunk on power and bud beer lol amd not trying to kill us. I agree that i would kill but not young kids with daddys rifle messing around. As much as i wanted to shoot them i feel we have gotten off topic here.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    as Rick said, if you are shooting at someone it's in self defence. your agenda is that you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.
     
  16. Josh1158

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    I like the high mag capacity. I've wanted a kel tec pmr 30 just because it holds 31 22mag rounds. Yeah its only a 22 but if you had to dump the whole mag you would turn what ever you were shootin at into swiss cheese
     
  17. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    Ok well you must not have read the details in my first statment. You wont always have a rifle and everyone is different and to personally attack me over my evaluation of a sit is plain out childish. I didnt think a bunch of people looking to chop my event into small fragments would come at me or i wouldnt have wrote anything. This was a one time thing and if you feel a bigger round is more practical instead of capacity then state that dont come at me with a lack of understanding to my situation. I was only trying to get opinions mot have some troll make stupid comments
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    sounds like we have a Shoobee reincarnate going on here! :eek:

    JM, you need to quit thinking in the terms and attitudes you are thinking in or one day you will find yourself in deep trouble and being a boytoy for Big Bubba in a penal institution.
     
  19. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    This is my opinion, too.
     
  20. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    If you want to murder teens with guns and beer go ahead. Dont attack me based on nothing
     
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