Glock. No contest whatsoever.GUNBOSS1031 said:
M9 or glock
I currently own a beretta px4 what should my next pistol be i shot both guns m9 and glock by the way i would like to get a glock 19 gen 4.
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Beretta, I'm looking to get a Glock 19 myself, butt my beretta is always getting compliments on the range, it's just so smooth and accurate. Plus there is a reason why the military picked the Beretta over the Glock.
Im not a Glock fan so I would even take the Taurus version of the M9 over a glock. Just my opinion. Thank you America.
M9 is way better than glock. Only gripe is take down and how loud the decocker is when the hammer slams. When taking down the m9 you have to make certain you hold the recoil assembly in or it will shoot out with alot of force. I've owned one and sold it because of those reasons. Plus I got a pretty penny for it since everything was customized.
i would go what feels the best in your hand. either pistol would be a good option, but which one fits you better is usually the one you will shoot more accurately.
My personal vote? Beretta!
however, I've shot a lot of rounds out both, and to counter the point of "why do you think the military uses Beretta?" --Why do you think so many police agencies use the glock?
both weapon platforms are accurate, reliable, and fairly cheap. I don't think that with either one, you'll find yourself at the range wishing you had the other.
go to the store and handle both of them, find out which ones feels best in your grip, actually pick a point on the wall and take a sight picture, feel the difference in the angle of the grip in relation to the barrel/sights. field strip each weapon to see if either one gives you an issue.
I've never had to physically hold the recoil spring and guide rod down while assembling a Beretta, and I've never had it shoot across the room. the sound of the decocker as it drops the hammer after chambering a round? it's about the same as snapping the hammer on an empty chamber
however, I've shot a lot of rounds out both, and to counter the point of "why do you think the military uses Beretta?" --Why do you think so many police agencies use the glock?
both weapon platforms are accurate, reliable, and fairly cheap. I don't think that with either one, you'll find yourself at the range wishing you had the other.
go to the store and handle both of them, find out which ones feels best in your grip, actually pick a point on the wall and take a sight picture, feel the difference in the angle of the grip in relation to the barrel/sights. field strip each weapon to see if either one gives you an issue.
I've never had to physically hold the recoil spring and guide rod down while assembling a Beretta, and I've never had it shoot across the room. the sound of the decocker as it drops the hammer after chambering a round? it's about the same as snapping the hammer on an empty chamber
Not all of the military is using the M9. The marines are in the process of switching over to the Colt 1911.Jet88 said:Beretta, I'm looking to get a Glock 19 myself, butt my beretta is always getting compliments on the range, it's just so smooth and accurate. Plus there is a reason why the military picked the Beretta over the Glock.
Two different animals. Which one's better? Personal preference.
As to Marines switching, right now only Special Ops are switching to 1911s read here. It's about 12,000 out of 200,000 that are going to be issued 1911s.
The toss up is between a striker fired or a conventional SA/DA pistol...both are inherently reliable and accurate firearms, as mentioned, one is adopted by 60% of the police in the country and the other has been the standard issue side arm of the military since the early 80's. The best thing to do is to grab a box or 2 of 115 grain ammo and shoot a G19 and see if you are comfortable with it. If so then go for it. If not then get another Beretta. The PX4 and the M9 are similar in function so you'll be familiar with that, but the G19 is the odd one, so you've got to wrap your hands around it and get comfort with the safe action trigger and the grip angle and so on. Both are hits so you can't miss either way!
The toss up is between a striker fired or a conventional SA/DA pistol...both are inherently reliable and accurate firearms, as mentioned, one is adopted by 60% of the police in the country and the other has been the standard issue side arm of the military since the early 80's. The best thing to do is to grab a box or 2 of 115 grain ammo and shoot a G19 and see if you are comfortable with it. If so then go for it. If not then get another Beretta. The PX4 and the M9 are similar in function so you'll be familiar with that, but the G19 is the odd one, so you've got to wrap your hands around it and get comfort with the safe action trigger and the grip angle and so on. Both are hits so you can't miss either way!
Glock all day long. I hated the Beretta when I carried one and most of the other Joes in my unit did too.
A little light reading for ya ...
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+luckygunner/posts/G5ayFxnvrhV
"Why The Beretta 92 is a Fantastic Handgun That No One Should Buy"
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+luckygunner/posts/G5ayFxnvrhV
"Why The Beretta 92 is a Fantastic Handgun That No One Should Buy"
Ya the m45 cqbctshooter said:Not all of the military is using the M9. The marines are in the process of switching over to the Colt 1911.
M9 is the better choice hands down. Natural point of aim. Easy to get mags weight makes it a very quick follow gun, unlike the glock and other polyguns balance of the gun doesnt really change as the magazine is used.
But like others said personal preference rules. I rent glocks from time to time to see if my tastes have changed so far there hasnt been any.
Reasons i dont prefer glock:
Gaston glock is against personal ownership of guns and self defense yet markets them to individuals. Giant lib hypocrit. Why contribute money to an antigunner profiting off us??
Glocks dont have a natural point of aim.
They bugger up cases when firing and make it harder for reloading.
Mushy creepy triggers that arent predictable on when they break the sear engagement.
No secondary safety device. About the same as carrying a revolver cocked with a round under the hammer.
But like others said personal preference rules. I rent glocks from time to time to see if my tastes have changed so far there hasnt been any.
Reasons i dont prefer glock:
Gaston glock is against personal ownership of guns and self defense yet markets them to individuals. Giant lib hypocrit. Why contribute money to an antigunner profiting off us??
Glocks dont have a natural point of aim.
They bugger up cases when firing and make it harder for reloading.
Mushy creepy triggers that arent predictable on when they break the sear engagement.
No secondary safety device. About the same as carrying a revolver cocked with a round under the hammer.
Yet another person telling us a gun is a POS because the grip is too fat, guess what, grip size is personal preference just like choosing not to own a plastic mushy trigger glock is personal preference, I have a big hand, I own a Beretta 96, fits me just fine, if this OP is considering a Beretta I'm sure he has handled one and is aware of the grip size. This is an awefully foolish reason to advocate "no one should buy a Beretta 92"A little light reading for ya ...
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+luckygunner/posts/G5ayFxnvrhV
"Why The Beretta 92 is a Fantastic Handgun That No One Should Buy"
No reason to get all antsy in your pantsy. Just a point of view. With what was written in that little snippet, all you pull from it is a guy saying not to buy one because of the grip size? I carried the M9 for years. I liked it until I found something I liked better, which was a Glock.blucoondawg said:Yet another person telling us a gun is a POS because the grip is too fat, guess what, grip size is personal preference just like choosing not to own a plastic mushy trigger glock is personal preference, I have a big hand, I own a Beretta 96, fits me just fine, if this OP is considering a Beretta I'm sure he has handled one and is aware of the grip size. This is an awefully foolish reason to advocate "no one should buy a Beretta 92"
Interesting, grip size is huge on the Glock 17 as well, which would be the closest comparison to the Beretta M9.
Those two pistols couldn't be more different. I like them both but own neither. If you're already used to a DA/SA set-up, then the Beretta makes more sense. However, it would probably be worth the time to test fire both of them because they are so different.
Those two pistols couldn't be more different. I like them both but own neither. If you're already used to a DA/SA set-up, then the Beretta makes more sense. However, it would probably be worth the time to test fire both of them because they are so different.
Both great guns and you would not be dissatisfied with either. Just ensure that the one you buy is the one that feels good and points naturally and well. I personally love Glocks, but won't use them for defense because of a lack of manual safety. For that reason I'd get the Beretta, but that's just me and my taste and preferences.
I meant holding it down while dissasembling it. I had to almost every time. It was annoying. And also a few people I spoke to on it said the same. And the hammer is loud if you were using it for self defense and you didn't want anyone hearing you. I'm saying it was loud because I'm comparing it to a sig p226 decocker and hk. I'm surprised no military personnel had the RSA fly off on em and render the sidearm useless. I was just stating my opinion to the guy and in no means start I.g arguments. But like everyone else said. U have to feel and shoot them yourself. Don't let anyone decide your protector for u.I've never had to physically hold the recoil spring and guide rod down while assembling a Beretta, and I've never had it shoot across the room. the sound of the decocker as it drops the hammer after chambering a round? it's about the same as snapping the hammer on an empty chamber
If I had a quarter for every time I saw some joe send one of those springs flying, well ... I would probably have enough to buy myself a mid priced cup of Starbucks. Haha.niteglock said:I meant holding it down while dissasembling it. I had to almost every time. It was annoying. And also a few people I spoke to on it said the same. And the hammer is loud if you were using it for self defense and you didn't want anyone hearing you. I'm saying it was loud because I'm comparing it to a sig p226 decocker and hk. I'm surprised no military personnel had the RSA fly off on em and render the sidearm useless. I was just stating my opinion to the guy and in no means start I.g arguments. But like everyone else said. U have to feel and shoot them yourself. Don't let anyone decide your protector for u.
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