m1911s what is a good one?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by jeffkaiser1989, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. jeffkaiser1989

    jeffkaiser1989 New Member

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    I have fired a colt model 1911 made in 1913 through a friend of mine but im looking into getting one thats more current and a little customised. Any suggestions on a good brand that makes m1911s? I know that Sig Sauer has some and ive heard of kimber but any info would be appreciated. Please include any malfunctions or any problems that you have expieranced. just looking to be educated before i buy thanks for reading
     
  2. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    Most of them are terrible. You will need to spend around $2500 or more to get one that can be considered adequate. ;)

    Seriously, most mainstream brands will do the job. It mostly boils down to personal preference.
    I recommend you take a long, close look at Customer service and warranty before purchasing. Some "so-called" premium brands have challenges in these departments while some of the bargain brands (Rock Island) seem to do very well at it.

    The brand I tend to steer "new to 1911" people toward is Springfield Armory, because they have a huge selection, reasonable pricing and a reputation for outstanding customer service to go with their lifetime warranty. Ditto for Colt as well.
     
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  3. rhyno13

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    For the money, Rock Island makes a damn fine 1911. I own a couple of Kimbers and Sigs and they are also damn fine weapons.
     
  4. jeffkaiser1989

    jeffkaiser1989 New Member

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    Rock island eh? Ill have to check them out ill deffinatly look at the Springfield armory next time im at the gun shop
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    For approx. $2000, any 1911 can be tweaked and tuned to be reliable and accurate.

    The only difference is the initial cost of the platform.

    If you bought a 1911 for $1000, add another $1000 in work and parts for an outstanding handgun.
    If you bought a 1911 for $500, add another $1500 in work and parts for an outstanding handgun.
    If you bought a 1911 for $2000, you should have an outstanding handgun already.
     
  6. JW357

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    I've never owned a 1911, but everything I've heard and read leads me to believe having a 1911 worth $2k isn't necessary for most people? Sure, maybe its better fr competition? But just owning a 1911 and enjoying it, I would imagine it would be overkill.

    I just don't want the OP to think he needs to drop $2k into a gun, either initially or over a period of time, to get enjoyment out of it.
     
  7. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Also, Jeff, what would your intended use be with the 1911?
     
  8. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    jeffkaiser1989 New Member

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    Probably just target shooting. Maybe home protection but havnt made up my mind just yet
     
  10. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Where to start? I guess it all depends on how much money you want to spend.

    Colt, Smith & Wesson, Springfield Armory, Ruger, Remington, Sig, Rock Island Armory, Les Baer, Wilson Combat, and so on and so forth.

    There are a lot of great 1911's out there at all kinds of price points. You're asking the same kind of question as "who makes a good sports car" or "who makes the best hamburger".
     
  11. jeffkaiser1989

    jeffkaiser1989 New Member

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    Good point within 500 - 1200$
     
  12. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    No no, no sorries needed. You have a legitimate point, if going for top of the line performance.
     
  13. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    My top two choices would be Ruger and Springfield in that range. YMMV
     
  14. limbkiller

    limbkiller New Member

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    Do what? I own lots of 1911's and none at the present cost over a $1,000. ALL have been reliable with not a single malfunction other than mag related. I had a buddy buy a bunch of $5 mags at a gun show a few years ago. They are all gone now. .22, 9mm. .38 super, and .45 so far. The .22 has had a couple of stove pipes in 3,00 rounds but not the others. If a gun doesn't work send it back and never buy a 1911 or any gun that doesn't have a lifetime warranty.
     
  15. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    no questions, colt

    close second springfield armory

    distant third ruger.

    kimber doesnt even make my list of quality firearms much less anything in the 1911 world. im not a kimber fan.
     
  16. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    There are good 1911s in all price ranges. But, there no outstanding 1911s in all price ranges.
     
  17. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Consider a Colt Rail Gun.

    - Prices were around 1K, not sure what they are now
    - It's stainless steel, blued 1911's require more care
    - It has a picatinny rail for a SureFire X300 (don't leave home without it)
    - The slide and frame are both forgings, if memory serves
    - A little more care and attention goes into the fitment of parts
    - It comes with useable sights from the box
    - Replacement parts are still available (buy extras: springs, firing pin, extractor)
    - Magazines generally work, at least mine do
    - You can get a quality kydex (plastic) holster for a railed 1911 with a X300

    After you get your Colt, have a good smith go through the gun and make sure the extractor and springs are GTG. He should have the gauges necessary to make sure all the parts are in spec. I can't speak to what you get with a 3K+ 1911, but 1K 1911's like a Colt need to have the springs and extractor checked. If you know how to do that yourself and have the tools, even better (I bought the gauges so I don't have to go to a smith).

    A 1911 is not inexpensive to properly manufacture. Remember that before you decide to carry it. You can get better guns than Colt makes, but you're going to spend a substantial amount of money.

    You will need the spare parts. I like 1911's, but none of the 3 Colt's that I've owned have gone 5K without an issue with the extractor, springs, or sights. Basically, Colt saves cost on the springs and extractor. They're not terrible but Wilson Combat, for example, makes better parts.

    At 1K I consider a Colt an affordable 1911 that requires some user care and attention to make sure it continues to run smoothly.

    If it doesn't come with rubber grips, buy some. I replaced the wood grips that my Colt came with rubber and I am pleased with the purchase I get on the pistol. Colt sells rubber grips off their website and my experience is that they fit their pistols snugly and without issue. You need blue locktite for the grip screws. All of mine have worked themselves loose.

    Apart from that, choose whichever 1911 you like best that's affordable on your budget and appeals to you most.

    I've shot 3K+ 1911's and I've shot a variety of Colt, Kimber, and several others. All the ones I've used have been functional weapons. Some work better than others. Colt is sufficiently high quality for my personal uses and I would not spend much more than 1K on a 1911, but that's just me.
     
  18. texaswoodworker

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    I have a Remington 1911R1, and I love it. It's quality is well worth the price! I bought mine used, but never shot for $550. I think they go for around $700 NIB.
     
  19. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh, and one last thing.

    You can't buy skill. I've seen a variety of shooters who have purchased very expensive 1911's on the local ranges I frequent and most of them just manage to shoot a dinner plate or saucer at 7 yards.

    Unless you're an accomplished marksman, buying a 3K 1911 won't yield any better results than a 1K 1911.

    I can count on one hand the number of non-professional shooters I've seen over the past 10 years or so who were capable of shooting more accurately than the pistol they had in their hands.

    Start with a basic 1911 and after you worn it out, then consider buying a fancy 1911.
     
  20. danf_fl

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    Fixed it for ya! :)
    If you do maintenance and change springs on a regular basis, the gun should out last you.