M1 shooters

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by 7point62, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I've never owned one but I'm thinking I need to have one. I'm assuming it's good with irons at 500-600 yards, like the M-14 (M1A)? And that the sights are similar?

    What about scoping it and shooting 800-1000 yards?

    Any recommendations as to what I should look for, or look out for?

    Thanks
     
  2. CA357

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    You're going to love that old rifle. :cool:
     

  3. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I've loved it all my life but have only held one once and briefly.
     
  4. JonM

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    i used to have one, hated humping it all over. but its a fun range gun. had to sell it long ago kinda wish i still had it.

    without some serious accurizing a basic springfield m1 will be stretching its legs past 600yds. but its pretty much same for any bolt rifle, a good trigger either free float or bedded a nice scope or some match grade iron sights nd your right there.

    my only complaint is the weight and length of em. they are cool as hell looking but weigh a ton and are pretty clumsy.
     
  5. M14sRock

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    The M1 is a useful piece of history, that is a LOT of fun.

    If you buy a surplus M1 check the muzzle wear and throat erosion (MW and TE), the lower number the better.

    CMP has them graded, and for a very good price. If you get one that has a worn out barrel, you can replace it with a new Criterion for a very good price.

    The USGI M1's are forged steel, while the commercial version sold by Springfield Armory Inc. (SAI) are built on cast receivers.

    Scoping them is a pain because of the need to load from the top, but the irons are the same as the M14 (graded in yards though, rather than meters) and are plenty good to 800 yards with a good barrel and good ammo.

    Our very own WJKulek (Walt) is considered one of THE authorities on the M1 alive today, and a PM to him may get you more info than you will know what to do with.

    Just remember that the M1 shoots M2 spec ammo, not general .30-06. If you want to shoot off the shelf .30-06 you will want a Schuster adjustable gas plug (avail at Brownells).
     
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  6. JonM

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    oops thought you were talking about the m1 springfield armory m14 copies heh. nm my post then
     
  7. Yes, the Garand sights are all but identical to the M14

    The M1 sights were the prototype for M14 sights. The adjustments are a trifle different, but the use is the same.

    One can use the irons out to 600 yards. (The caveat being '...depending on one's eyesight'.) There are scope mounts available.

    JonM mentioned accurizing. If you intend to shoot at 1000 yards, the basic M1 gets a little loose out past 600 yards. Then again, yours may shoot just fine at extended ranges. If you plan on shooting at extended ranges primarily, you might consider a bolt gun as a primary.

    The only 'look out' of which I'm certain are aftermarket receivers rather than G.I. made. There are some very worn Garands out there as well. Make sure the lands and grooves are crisp and clean at the muzzle.
     
  8. CA357

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    One last note, beware of "Garand Thumb". ;)
     
  9. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    No prob, I should have said "Garand".


    Thanks all for taking the time to respond and for the excellent advice. I'll let you know how I fare in my search.

    "Garand Thumb," hahaha, ouch.
     
  10. kalgunner

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    scoping a m1 is not easy. the mount is not centered over the receiver, it is offset to the left side. the m1 d was the sniper version. you might want to set it up like a m1 d , by doing some accurizing and mounting a scope. fun shooter though.
     
  11. Laufer

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    CA357:
    As for Garand thumb, when pulling back the bolt on my nice Service Grade (CMP), the bolt won't really 'ride' on the rear of the follower, but tries to slam forward.

    But so many others might have stronger springs, allowing them to pause there, and fool people.
    Glad that I read so many bad things about Century-assembled CETMES.

    The resolve to avoid any Century semi-auto led to my first Garand last summer, the coolest, most interesting gun I will ever own!:)
    My wife somehow realized before I did:confused: that there will be a future companion for the M-1. How can they make such accurate prophesies?
    There were two MN 44s for a while (no more), and will always have the two Enfield #5s:D, but the idea of two Garands did not occur to me until she spoke up.
     
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  12. crazycharlie2

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    Most often referred to as 'The M1 thumb':D
    Almost every one in my basic training unit had one;)
     
  13. CA357

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    I think it's a right of passage. :eek:
     
  14. firelt

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    I love my M1. I got it in what I would call "barely serviceable" condition, but it had good bones. I hand reconditioned the wood and dis-assembled/inspected each part. I was shooting 1.5 in groups at 400 yards until I started loading my own ammunition. Now I shoot 1 inch groups at 500 yards.

    I want to start hunting both deer and wild pig with it. I am aware of the weight and size issues that many have experienced and I'm willing to live with that. Anyone got any advise on a good scope mount?
     
  15. M14sRock

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    "Barely Serviceable"? And 1.5 inches at 400 yards? Yeah, that's the ticket.

    Now with hand loads it is doing 1 inch at 500 yards? Yeah, that's the ticket.
     
  16. JonM

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    he musta meant 40 and 50 yards or 400 and 500 inches
     
  17. Highpower

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    Didn't know Tommy Flanagan was a member! :confused:
     
  18. M14sRock

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    Yeah, That's the ticket!
     
  19. Highpower

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    Would love to see Morgan join up. ;)

    Specially in the trail... :D
     
  20. jdhagen65

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    I'm having an issue with my M1, at least I think it's an issue. When I insert a fully loaded clip into the reciever the rifle requires a hefty slap (or 2, or 3) on the charging handle to get in the bolt to chamber the first round and go into battery.

    Suggestions?