M1 Carbine vs Mini 14

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by tCan, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    I know you really can't go wrong with either of these rifles, but I'm interested to see what others would pick, given a choice, and hopefully why as well.
     
  2. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I'd go with the Ruger.

    IMO a similar design to the venerable M1 carbine, with .223,

    a much more effective round.
     

  3. GUNBOSS1031

    GUNBOSS1031 New Member

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    I would go with the mini 14 and get the strike foce package
     
  4. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Just curious but how is a varmint round, the 223, a more effective round than a very well proven man killer, the 7.62?
     
  5. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Forget that post. I skipped the carbine part.
     
  6. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I'm going to go with the M1 Carbine. Why? Simply, because my grandfather was a Navy Seabee in WWII/Korean War and carried one. Also I love anything that is military surplus from that time period and is historically signifcant. Not to mention it is really small which I like ;).
     
  7. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    M1 Carbine for it's provenance, it's a warrior.

    And I like the 30 carbine round.
     
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  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i think it would come down to intended use. longer range, the mini 14 in 223, shorter range, the m-1 carbine in 30 carbine. either one would be nice to own. i have been looking at buying a m-1 carbine just for fun to shoot, no real reason or use for it.
     
  9. jismail

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    I have both currently and they are both superb weapons.

    Drawing on just my experience with both and no 'hard facts' here are my opinions:

    Accuracy - I would suggest that the .223 is more accurate, and has longer effective range then the .30c. I shoot at 50yrd and 100yds only and use open sights typically. I have scoped my mini14 for the 100yd range where I havent the mounst on the carbine to do the same but on the 50yr ranges I had pretty good results and tighter groups with the mini14 than my carbine seems to be able to provide.

    As for reliability - I think it is a bit of a toss up, both use a similar gas design, and their simplicity makes them very reliable. Both are well made. The carbine is battle tested and my 68 year old carbine is still working flawlessly. My Mini has a few thousand rounds through it with not a single issue.

    Cost of ownership (initial) is also about the same, you can get rack grade carbines at Big5 sports for around 800 bucks, and the .223 ruger is also around 800 bucks. Parts are available for both, but the carbine parts can be pricey.

    Long term ammo costs- I would give the nod to the .223 as you can get it at any sporting goods shop and it is often on sale, the .30 ammo is a bit harder to come buy and costs more per round.

    Accessorizing- well the mini wins hands down in this area, but hey, if your looking at a vintage .30 carbine, I assume you like the steel and wood era rifles and wouldnt be looking for the 'zombie killer' looks and accessories, but if you are, there are some carbine stocks and accessories available, just not as many options as the mini has.

    Bang for your buck on the "fun meter" - depends on how you shoot, if scopes and targets are your thing, the mini is the better choice, if just plinking is your intent, the carbine is a blast to shoot, has no recoil and is small so it can be easily shot by children or smaller women.

    Cool factor - well, again, depends on your taste. I have been on the range with my restored 1943 SP carbine and had plenty of folks stop by to chat about it and in a day and age where the 'black rifle' is the most common thing on the range, wood and steel often stands out just because it's differnent.

    Home Defense - well, neither is a good choice in my opinion. Shooting a rifle at HD ranges such as a hallway often will lead to over penetration so I would look elsewhere for a HD weapon.

    SHTF - I would go with the mini as the .223 round is more plentiful, is a NATO standard, and would be easier to find in times of social disrupiton.

    M1 Carbine
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    Mini 14
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  10. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    That's a pretty good summation there, Jismail.
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    well said! good objective post from someone with experiance with both weapons. good information i was kind of looking for myself, as i have been thinking about getting one or the other to add to my collection. thanks for the input.
     
  12. therewolf

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    IMHO, the length of pull for larger guys is sadly lacking on both models,

    and the Ruger rear sights are sketchy, at best , on the model

    I used.
     
  13. sniper762

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    mass x velocity = energy do the math
     
  14. cuate

    cuate New Member

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    Granted there are favorites but....

    I have owned a US Carbine, made by Winchester. I loved the rifle but the little cartridge was anemic as to killing power.

    I have owned a Ruger Mini 14, I loved the rifle but after the barrel heated up it was not known for it's accuracy.

    I have owned a Ruger Mini 30 which I also liked and feel that the 7.62X39 beats both of the above mentioned.

    But now suffering the AK47 craze and off upon that tangent which is not what the original subject referred to..'Scuse me...
     
  15. Ryno702

    Ryno702 New Member

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    Mini 14 is a good gun. So is the carbine. If I choose one. Itld be the Springfield M1 grand.
     
  16. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    From past experience with both, I would have to go with the Mini. The M1 Carbine is fun to shoot but anemic. No I would not like to get hit by one. They should have made a rimless .357. As posted previously, the Mini30 would be a better choice than either.
     
  17. Sao

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    I own a mini got it from my wifes grandfather and I put an ati gunstock onto it never actually shot a m1 though he also has one upstairs just sitting in a corner but I like my mini guess its the whole tactical feel that I get but I've taken it to the range when I was stationed at fort polk with mixed emotion some people really like it others said I should have gotten something else well you can't complain when you get something free oh and forgot to mention I received it with a stainless steel mag the mag wouldn't correctly resulting in having to grip the magazine so it would chamber another round after picking a promag from a local gunstore it work without any problems
     
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  18. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    Interesting anecdote. I've heard nothing but good things about the Ruger mags and nothing but bad things about the aftermarket ones.
     
  19. Sao

    Sao New Member

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    Someone at the range said the same thing but from my my experience I switched mags and it works. I never tried another factory mag as they are twice a much as the pro mags.