M&P9 full size vs shield?

Discussion in 'M&P Forum' started by GunsGodAndCountry, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. GunsGodAndCountry

    GunsGodAndCountry New Member

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    Im coming to terms with the fact that I'll never be able to conceal my full sized m&p 9 on my body. My clothing is too tight and my body is too small (never thought I'd be saying that). I told myself I'd just purse carry but now I'm seeing these really neat bra holsters and Im thinking that would be a better alternative sometimes, like when Im walking the dogs or taking the kids to the park. That being said, how do you guys compare the two? I love my full size because it fits my hand like a glove and, for me at least, its a natural pointer. Its imperative that they feel similarly because sometimes I still plan to purse carry my full size. At this point I'm just musing and will definitely get some hands on trigger time before I decide but for right now, what do you guys think?
     
  2. Donn

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    I've had both for quite a while, ( a 9c too). While I agree with the points you make, the FS isn't a good CC choice, especially the way you mentioned carrying. Grip's too big and the 17rd mag is too heavy. If you can get a Shield, do it. You'll find the learning curve almost non-existent and it's much lighter, easier to conceal particularly with the short mag.
     

  3. Doc3402

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    Go to your local gun store, tell them what you have, your likes and dislikes, and let them point out a few smaller guns that may have the same feel for you. If there is a female employee there, so much the better.

    A lot of people will tell you that you can adapt. Don't believe it. You should never settle for something based on concealability if you find it pointing two feet off target every time you pick it up. Pointing naturally is critical for a self defense firearm.

    Something else to consider. When you buy a new sidearm try to buy something you can carry and conceal no matter what the weather. Carry the same gun, with the same ammo, in the same place all the time. If you want to own three dozen firearms that's fine, but your carry gun should be the one that points naturally, and the one you should spend the most time shooting.
     
  4. drvsafe

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    My sister is selling her shield if you're looking to buy one. PM me and I can try and set something up. She has maybe 100 rounds through it at best.
     
  5. GunsGodAndCountry

    GunsGodAndCountry New Member

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    I don't think I agree with you, at least for my own situation. I am very comfortable with my fs and there's no reason I can't purse carry it, Im confident with it and have practiced to the point I could operate it in my sleep. The whole point of this thread is wanting something similar because I don't think its reasonable to think a woman must carry the same way all the time, given the huge variety of types of clothes we wear. There isn't a single rig that would work for everything I wear in a period of a week. Wearing a bra holster like the flashbang would only be for situations where its inconvenient or impractical to carry a purse and personally I'd rather carry a different gun than usual, than not carry at all.

    I simply want a general opinion on whether or not they feel similarly, all things considered. I fell in love with my fs and if there was any possible way to conceal it on my body, I would do so. I've gone as far as to entertain the idea of breast implants to give myself extra room for concealment. The shield seems to be a reasonable compromise if its got the same feel.
     
  6. mountainman13

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    The shield is noticeably smaller and thinner that the full size and doesn't have the swappable backstraps. Other than that it is exactly the same.
     
  7. GunsGodAndCountry

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    So the backstrap on the shield, which size would you say its most like?
     
  8. mountainman13

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    I'd have to say the smallest.
     

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  9. GunsGodAndCountry

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    Thanks. We're planning a trip to our lgs so hopefully I'll get to hold one, maybe even rent one and see how it feels.
     
  10. wittmeba

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    Here is a google search on comparisons of the M&P Shield to others. Sounds like if you like the M&P series it would be a good choice for you.

    Shield comparison
     
  11. mountainman13

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    I don't know about in your area but around here they are extremely difficult to get hold of. I got lucky and heard about a shop an hour away that got 50 of them in. By the time I got there they had 3 left.
     
  12. GunsGodAndCountry

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    The last time we went I didn't notice any, but JW said he thought he saw some. Remember, Im in cali so guns aren't necessarily flying off the shelves here. Hopefully they'll have what Im looking for. Even if its not in 9, I'll at least get an idea.
     
  13. JW357

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    We're going to the LGS today anyway. Upon more research, we've learned the Shield isn't ambidextrous. GGAC is a south-paw.

    We'll keep you guys updated. Thanks for the thoughts so far.
     
  14. num1dude13

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    I'm sorry to say that the shield is not on the CA DOJ handgun list last time I checked.
     
  15. Fred_G

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    Check out the M&P 9c. It has a reversible mag release, and some have the ambi safety, which can be easily removed if you wish. Not as small as the Shield, but might work, and would operate like the M&P 9.
     
  16. JW357

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    I was on the S&W website earlier today and they had one labeled "CA Compliant." So if that's any indication, it is now.
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...80153_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

    Yeah, I own a 9c and I like it a lot. It's another GGAC is considering.
     
  17. GunsGodAndCountry

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    Went to the LGS today, held and shot a kahr pm9, a ruger lc9, held a m&p 9c, as well as a ruger lcr and ruger sp101 just for kicks.

    So far the 9c is winning in my book for a concealable gun. I'd prefer a single stacked magazine but if the 9c can be hidden in a bra holster (hubby has the 9c so we'll see about that) then I certainly won't complain about those extra rounds.

    Im thinking about looking at concealable steel framed guns as well, so we'll see what I end up choosing.
     
  18. Fred_G

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    I am a big fan of the M&P 9c, also works with full sized mags for fun on the range. But defiantly check it out size wise. Smith could have done a better job slimming it down for carry, the trigger is not the best, but it has been very reliable at the range and a couple of classes. Plus, is operated like your full sized gun.

    Looking forward to seeing what you select.
     
  19. GunsGodAndCountry

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    Im always interested when people don't like the triggers, I personally love them. My only complaint is the ghost reset but I only notice that when Im using snapcaps to practice trigger control.

    I HATED the kahr. Im all bruised up from the snappy recoil and bad bore axis. Maybe its good for someone but definitely not me.
     
  20. Fred_G

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    I don't like it because of the poor (in my opinion reset). But have heard the Apex stuff fixes that.

    I find it hard to feel the reset when firing live ammo, dry presses, no problem. I am a bit spoiled, I shoot a 1911 with a 3# trigger, not a fair comparison to the M&P, but they could improve it some. The M&P is a good gun, if it fits your needs.