M i t says it's over in 2030

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by downsouth, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. downsouth

    downsouth New Member

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  2. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    Well I still have a few more years to build up my ammo and git a few more guns on the to get list. Either way it goes looks like we are all going to need a lot of ammo.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    18 years, huh? I think they are being overly optimistic. With government oversight, (oversight- meddling, micromanaging, overegulating, taxing) I think civilization as we know it can be severely damaged or destroyed sooner than that.

    Time to start selling those buttons again- the ones that say "Go Lemmings Go!"
     
  4. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    What c3shooter said. It won't take 18 years.
     
  5. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Well, we had a good run...;)
     
  6. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Look at the stories to the side of the main article. I dont think the computer model has all the information necessary to reach a viable conclusion. I have seen some pretty bad computer models before that did not have all the necessary data. This one looks like a bogus attempt to calm things down.
    Wyoming is passing new legislation that will get them through a collapse. The imminent collapse of the Eurozone. There is a prediction of a peoples uprising against the government. A conflict between the will of the people and the will of the government is expected by the government or the recent legislation concerning search, seizure and military arrest along with the presidential order to nationalize everything would not have come about. Put these other stories together and the picture becomes far more bleak.
     
  7. Tackleberry1

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    Don't worry guys, when the smoke settles I will be Emperor of the Western Hemisphere.

    Through either diplomacy or Nuclear force, we will reestablish the worlds governments.

    The law of the land will be exactly what was on the books the day the 2nd amendment was ratified, nothing more, nothing less.

    It should not take more than 10 years of my leadership to restabilize the planet and begin the process of transitioning back to democratic control of government with 3 new wrinkles.
    A. Only Veterans are allowed the vote
    B. No new law shall be passed without first striking down at least 1 existing law.
    C. No political parties will be allowed and NO private funding of campaings.

    All should be right again within 2 decades so keep your powder dry and the world will turn.

    Tack
     
  8. Ranger-6

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    Oh, give it up...This planet has been destroyed and populated more times than humans can imagine. It's a cycle of destruction and build that will happen millions of times more. All we can do is enjoy the moment and participate in helping it along.
     
  9. Georgiahunter

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    I like the absence of political parties, don't know what to think about the law thing, and am completely against the voting thing. I do not think being in the military should give you more rights than the people you defended. As a soldier you are not fighting for yourself, but for your country. There are plenty of good and responsible non veterans out there. Talk about punishing the many for the misdeeds of the few. Should we all be kept from owning guns because some people are irresponsible with them. Although this is a hypothetical situation, it does convey your political views, most of which I agree with you on.
     
  10. Tackleberry1

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    I should have typed the Vet thing in Green as that portion was somewhat toungue in cheek. I do however get a bit tired of men who never served putting our forces in harms way and then effectively tying there hands with BS rules of engagement.

    Perhaps just the position of "Commander In Chief" would require Vet status.

    Emperor Tackleberry will consider your thoughts.

    Tack
     
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  11. Georgiahunter

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    I know what you meant and I cannot stand people who have never been in combat who put our men in harms way by putting a half-butt effort into helping them either. Where are our George Washingtons now? We need high level commanders fighting with our men, not playing politics in the capital. I actually meant to say I would agree with vet status requires for higher level offices on my previous post.
     
  12. Ranger-6

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    Armies, thug groups, and gangs all have the same purpose, to take by force the resources controlled by others. Patriots, freedom fighters, and vigilantes all have the same purpose, to stop those by counter-force from taking the resources.
     
  13. ShagNasty1001

    ShagNasty1001 New Member

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    I'll believe the world will end when the Big Man upstairs says so. Anything else that says different can go blow smoke
     
  14. Georgiahunter

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    Amen!!!!!!!
     
  15. Ranger-6

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    The Big Man said the worse is yet to come, and nobody can imagine what the worse will be.
     
  16. Georgiahunter

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    Good thing I will be long gone when most of it goes down. :)
     
  17. buildthedamnfence

    buildthedamnfence New Member

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    Al hail Tackleberry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. Birchhatchery

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    Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right -- a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.' Abraham Lincoln, January 12, 1848 speech in Congress (If I'm not mistaken 13 states did this and a war was waged against them, now ain't that something.)

    now i think we can and should learn alot about what happend and why in the 1860s i feel great change is coming to America again
     
  19. JTJ

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    There was a science fiction book written a long time ago with a similar scenario. You had to complete a term of government service to vote or hold office. Government service was voluntary and guaranteed as in they had to find something for you to do so as not to exclude handicaps. You could not vote or hold office while in service. Elected office was not considered as government service and terms were strictly controlled so no one could gain too much power. It was pretty well thought out but I can not remember the title.
    Our government fears the returning veterans. If they united into a voting block, they would have a lot of power. Further, our elected officials fear a confrontation with an aroused public and know veterans have the combat experience to wage a gorilla war. They also fear that the military or at least some elements of the military would refuse to take up arms against our own citizens in an obvious unconstitutional situation. There is also fear of a military take over as written in an article by a former Whitehouse insider. I recently posted in the history thread about the 1946 battle of Athens Tennessee. This is what the government fears on a national scale. The bottom line is our government is very afraid and that is why we have all these recent unconstitutional laws and decrees.
     
  20. texaswoodworker

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    Well, lock and load boys. If we are going to go through that kind of hell, it's best to get all the firepower you can.