Luger?

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Trez, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    I have a guy wanting to trade me a Luger for my Winchester '95...

    Its a Model 1914 made in 1916 by DWM... Its a commercial version, whats the difference from a Military model? I see some Lugers go some some big bucks, Do all of them? They seem weird and kinda neat... Ive never shot a Luger, any insights? I was told everything matches but the rear toggle link (It does have a matching mag though..) What do you guys think??
     
  2. trip286

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    I can't answer all your questions, but the cheapest I've seen a Luger go for is 1200 or so, and I can't guarantee if that was a genuine Luger or one of the repros that stoeger used to make.

    I told you before that I didn't think the deal was worth it, but I'm thinking I need to retract that. Monetarily, yeah it may be worth it, but for me, the rifle would be the better value. Still, those old Lugers are super cool. Maybe not as cool as a Medusa... but that may just be jealousy speaking.
     

  3. Trez

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    Actually Im just curious about the Luger, and would like to know more about it.. Like is it one of those I could get a stock for?
    Im not sure if I wanna trade or not yet... What I really want is a M1 or Krag.. I like the '95 but it really doesnt shoot much different from my 30-30, and I just want something different. I just like how different mil-surps look from each other.. Im not too concerned, about a small difference in price, but dont wanna be raped either...
     
  4. Trez

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    Like this? Its weird and fugly.. but I like it!...
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  5. c3shooter

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    There are so many variations of the Luger, we would be hard pressed to give you an exact dollar amount. One of the cheaper variants is about $600 in Good condition. Most of the Commercial models did not have the lugs for a shoulder stock.

    Value to a collector is based on orginality. Mixed parts= less $$$.
     
  6. Trez

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    Some pics...

    I donnno, Might start to consider the luger.. They are kinda sexy.... Is that the "lug" on the grip for the stock? What would be the legality of putting one on?

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    Detail pics...
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  7. c3shooter

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    Original Luger, Broomhandle, or Browning Hi Power, WITH the lug, CAN have an ORIGINAL shoulder stock. Anything else- Short Barreled Rifle. $200 ATF tax stamp.
     
  8. trip286

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    Not my concern, but I'm curious. Does the Original shoulder stock have to be original to the gun, or can it be of period manufacture for that gun?
     
  9. Trez

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    What about this thing?
    I guess its a .22LR pistol that turns into a carbine?

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    That thing almost looks like something Beretta would make.

    I've looked at that ad, usually when there are legal things to consider, most companies list those things in the ad. This is not always the case. But I didn't see any legal notes there.
     
  11. TimL2952

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    Oooooh....Luger...very nice.

    to start, the civilian models just aren't AS desireable as the military models. The first picture you posted is the 8inch barreled artillery carbine model.

    The "Lug" on the back is actually part of the action. Lugers operate using a toggle locking system. to load, insert a magazine through the grip, grab the "lug" and pull upwards and to the rear. upon firing the firearm repeats the motion on the recoil power of the cartridge.

    I suggest youtubing the gun and learning some stuff about it...VERY neat and I hear it fits like a glove and its very comfy to shoot
     
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    Excuse the mis read....I thought you were referring to the lock as a "Lug"...see now that it was the stock Lug
     
  13. c3shooter

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    Does not have to be THE original shoulder stock- and I do not know that BATFE is looking too closely at the stocks- but you cannot modify the PISTOL and have that fly.

    Re: carbine- key is the BARREL is now 16 inches or more.
     
  14. Trez

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    Found this...

    It is not the policy of this Bureau to render a classification on a Shoulder stock which in and of itself is not subject to the provisions of The Gun Control Act or the NFA. However, as you are aware, certain Luger and Browning Hi-Power pistols when accompanied by original shoulder stocks have been removed from the purview of the NFA.

    Our Firearms Classification Panel has examined your request and is their opinion that the above mentioned pistols equipped with currently made reproduction shoulder stocks which either duplicate or closely approximate the dimensions and configuration of the original stocks would also be primarily of interest to collectors and not likely be used as weapons. Therefore, any Luger or Browning Hi-Power pistol which would be removed from the purview of the NFA if equipped with an original shoulder stock, would also not be subject to the NFA is equipped with a reproduction shoulder stock which either duplicates or closely approximates the dimensions and configuration of the original stock.

    It must be pointed out that should one of the subject reproduction stocks be attached to any handgun which has not been specifically removed from the purview of the NFA with an original stock, the combination would be subject to all of the registration and transfer provisions of the NFA.
     
  15. Trez

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    AAARRGGGG!!! I cant decide.... The Luger is neat, but is it what I want?? :confused: I wish I knew somebody with one so I could shoot one...

    Would it be something I could trade off later for something that would interest me more?
     
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  16. trip286

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    You could probably trade it off later if you wish. I'd like to have one, so I'm sure others would too.
     
  17. TimL2952

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    I'd take the Luger and run any day of the week.
     
  18. Trez

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    I think Im gonna pass... Seeing Jons PSL makes me want to get that Russian tigr I seen at the last gun show... So, I will accept nothing less than the M1 I want or the $$ to start saving up for that Tigr!! :D

    The '95 has been listed in the classified section, I figure I tried all the "local" ways to sell it....
     
  19. TimL2952

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    aw man....If I had the money I'd snag that '95 in a heartbeat...stupid college...