Let me preface by saying I start way too many threads, and need to slow down, I think. I'm going to try to limit myself to a "responding to others" role for awhile. That said, I feel that this may, by far, be the most important one I've ever done. We'll see. This is not a guys only thread. Indeed, input from the ladies is crucial here. I hope this runs awhile, and I hope the older gentlmen feel free to offer the majority of the input. You see, I notice a decline in manners. Not here, so much, but in society at large. People have forgotten, or more sadly, never had, simple manners. Holding doors, "Sir and Ma'am", and my God, table manners. We can blame liberated women for this, but if we were manly, we would hold a door no matter how much they objected, and maintain our manly stoicism. Common courtesy is no longer common, it's rare. What courtesies have we forgotten, and what will the wayward youth that stumbles across this thread learn, my friends?