I'm taking my kimber pro carry 2 to the gun show in Springdale AR saturday to see if I can trade for a full size (5") 1911. Wish me luck. Why? I think the 5" 1911's suit me better after shooting several of other people's. Funny thing is, none of them wanted to trade. A guy did offer me his taurus 1911.straight across, yeah, I'll bet bud.