Looking to buy AK

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by Hendo, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. Hendo

    Hendo New Member

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    I've recently joined here and I've been reading a whole ton of threads already up on the site. I guess I'll start with what my intended uses are. Primarily I really wanted a gun to shoot at the local range, and to have the gun double as home protection (only if it really ever came to that, I live in pretty nice suburbs). I've looked into AKs and I know I don't want a WASR. My budget is around 4-5 hundred, but I will push it to 600 if it is really worth it for the gun. I don't think I have a particular preference in regards to 5.45 or 7.62, but I think I'm probably going to end up with 5.45. I really like the Yugos I've looked at and I really want to find one with a chrome lined barrel. Here's a few I've considered buying... anyone with experience with these I would greatly appreciate the feedback/help!

    M72 RPK Sporter 7.62x39 Rifle

    AKM74 M74 Sporter Rifle, 5.45x39 Caliber w/ Side Rail. By CAI.

    Tantal Sporter Rifle Cal. 5.45x39mm Century Arms

    AK 47 Assault Rifle Sale

    Bulgarian AK-74 Rifle - 5.45x39 - With 3 Mags #AKAGUN74

    Also, are recoil buffers a good idea to put on? Thanks!
     
  2. Mannster

    Mannster New Member

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    Hey, good luck with your purchase. Good decision to go with the AK. I have a Yugo and a WASR-10 and I love them both. The WASR has a chrome lined barrel while the Yugo doesn't but it has a heavier barrel. I've put a bunch of rounds through both and haven't had a single jam or misfire. I can't say which I prefer, maybe the Yugo as it's an underfolder, but I love the look of the wood on my WASR.

    Personally, I prefer 7.62x39. Bigger round with a bigger punch. It's pretty close ballistically to the 6.8 - not an exact match, but pretty close. I think you'll find the ammo generally cheaper, and you can fire wolf/tula ammo through it all day. It loves that stuff, and cleaning isn't a big issue with the AK as it breaks down very easy.

    One other thing about my Yugo... It has some off size items on it - maybe it's just the underfolder (not sure - I'm not an AK expert). But I know I ordered some addons for it and while they fit the WASR, the Yugo had a gas tube that was longer than standard, and a lower handguard that was longer. I didn't do an exhaustive search, but I wasn't able to find too many accessories for the non standard Yugo.

    Good luck!
     

  3. Hendo

    Hendo New Member

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    Thanks! Now I'm looking to get a .22 rifle also for shooting lol. Im looking at some arsenals but theyre a bit over my budget.
     
  4. Hendo

    Hendo New Member

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    Also. how are IOs in quality? they seem ok for the price
     
  5. diggsbakes

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    The 7.62 is the Russian version of the 30-30. The ammo is close to double the price of the 5.45 x 39, especially in respect to surplus. Many American ammunition companies manufacture this round, so supply is not totally dependent on import/surplus The 7.62 x 39 is also known for it's ability to penetrate solid objects,

    The 5.45x 39 is known for it's wounding potential, flatter trajectory, lower recoil and greater accuracy. It's availability is based solely (maybe an exception I don't know of?) on importation.

    Yugo and Romanian parts aren't usually compatible. You might want to reconsider a WASR. Nothing wrong with them.

    The AK does not "DOUBLE" well as a "home defense" weapon. It is a powerful rifle that penetrates walls, car doors and many other solid objects. DO NOT USE IT FOR A "HOME DEFENSE" WEAPON, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUBURBS! ! !
     
  6. Hendo

    Hendo New Member

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    I dont intend on using it for that purpose. Maybe I should rephrase what I meant. I meant for target shhoting and more along the lines of SHTF in my area. I have neighbors every side of me, I wouldn't use a gun that could rip through steel for a burglar lol. If myarea became bad I would just go to gun shop for a 12 gauge. But I do appreciate the warning and concern.

    How are bulgarian 74s? Correct me if Im wrong, but the WASRs dont come with chromed barrels? The ones Ive looked at I dont remember seeing that. Im hoping to get some feedback on IOs, bulgarians, and polish tantals before I make a run out to the gun shop.
     
  7. 7.62 Man

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  8. TennesseanStuckInCali

    TennesseanStuckInCali New Member

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    The only way someone should use it as a home defense weapon is if its their only choice and even then its iffy.if you had to,HP would have to be the round of choice.But a shotgun is the best home defense weapon
     
  9. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Right on! That's good news.

    I would, however still like to see Winchester, Remington or any other (preferably even lower class) mass commercial manufactures, come up a target/mil-spec line for this cartridge, just to know that the continued supply is available domestically.

    But it's a start!
     
  10. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Future availability has always been a major concern for me in regards to the 5.45. All it will take is a stroke of the (Presidential) pen for imports to cease.
    The 7.62 has an established manufacturing and fan base. With Winchester, Federal and Remington all making ammo its future availability is more assured.
     
  11. 7.62 Man

    7.62 Man New Member

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    I'm sure that with as many AK74s in the US today if the President signed a ban on the import of ammo, the ammo manufacturing co.s in the US would pick up the making of the 5.45x39 ammo to fill the demand.
     
  12. pranc2

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    7.62x39mm most common round in the world. no matter what anyone ever tells you and not really that bad on price if you get some of the middle range stuff. the cheap stuff tends to be dirty(leave more residue) and i just spend more time cleaning everything. not that the weapon cant handle it. i just keep them all good and clean. if you buy remington or winchester yeah it adds up quick but inside 300m not really all that different from a .308 and rounds are cheaper than that all day.
     
  13. TexasShooter

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    Of the choices mentioned by the OP I think I'd go with the Tantal, (from the web):
    1) The gas tube is floated between the gas block and the rear sight support. It does not touch the handguard. The handguard is supported by an extended lower handguard flange and the rear sight support.
    2) The muzzle brake has been modified to also function as a grenade launcher.
    3) The Tantal comes with a side-folding stock that mounts just like a fixed buttstock. It does not require a different rear trunnion, but mounts on a standard trunnion in the normal fashion. It can be quickly and easily interchanged with a fixed stock. Most military sidefolding stocks are build on dedicated receivers, and cannot be converted to fixed stocks.
    4) The gas block has been modified to accept a bipod. Standard NATO bipods will fit this version.
    It also has a cold hammer forged chrome plated bore barrel and the reputation of being one of the best made AK's on the current market...