Looking to buy a Rifle

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by tonyaz06, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. tonyaz06

    tonyaz06 New Member

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    I'm a 20 year old college student looking to buy my first long range rifle. I used to go shooting quite a bit and I'm starting to go again with my buddies so I have familiarity with guns, but have never owned anything bigger than my .22 rimfire rifle. I am no gun fanatic but am willing to pay for a good quality rifle. I was hoping to get some advice/opinions between the barrett m98b and the AR-30's.

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    Obviously the m98b is better but is it worth all the extra money. $3300 is A LOT for me to pay so I was wondering if you guys also had any other suggestions on rifles I maybe hadn't researched yet. I want this gun to be really bad ***, but not entirely deplete my bank account.

    -Tony
     
  2. ronl

    ronl New Member

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    For a first long range rifle, I'd suggest a bolt action, rather than a semi, but that's completely up to you. The bolt actions are much less expensive and you can learn all the basics. The .30 AR's are nice and accurate, but a bit too pricey in my humble opinion, but for the same price you can have a bolt action that will shoot just a bit better. There is a reason why most long range shooters use bolt action rifles.
     

  3. JonathanGlass

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    If you want a long range rifle for shooting different distances, I would look into a .300 win mag, .338, or a .308. It's all in what you want, if you want something with a lighter kick look in the 22 ranges like 22-250, .223, .243 also isn't a bad choice. Just depends what you're using it for and where, may I also suggest a tactical scope.

    I also suggest a bolt action rifle, yes ar's are a little more durable and easier to clean but a bolt action rifle will be more accurate especially out to longer ranges. And you save a bucket load of cash, if I were you i'd go with a bolt rifle and find what shoots the best.
     
  4. tonyaz06

    tonyaz06 New Member

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    Saving a bucket load of cash sounds good to me...any suggestions of good bolt action rifles/brands?
     
  5. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    First Can your mom and dad adopt me?

    $3k will buy you a much better long range gun that that POS barret. That is just me you are paying more for the name than anything else with that thing.

    Spend $1k on a Savage F-class in 6.5-284 Norma and put a $900 Sightron SIII 10-50x60mm in some good Leupold rings $150 and call it a darn day. That Savage will shoot rings around that barret any day of the week. Now with the $1k I just saved you you can buy reloading equipment your going to need to reload the 6.5-284.

    Personally I call BS don't know many college students at 20 that have $5k in the bank unless they are on a fund from daddy....
     
  6. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    If you really want a good rifle with options then get a Remington 700.I would go with .270 Winchester myself,but there are alot of other good caliber out there too.
     
  7. tonyaz06

    tonyaz06 New Member

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    haha, I wish my parents would help fund me. This is legitimately all my cash, been working since 16. Plus this isn't a purchase i can make immediately, just doing some preliminary research. Thanks for the info though. I will definitely look into your advice.
     
  8. ronl

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    Either a Savage or a Remington 700. I have both and one doesn't seem to shoot better than the other, they're both very accurate. If you choose a 700 with the junk plastic stock, throw the factory stock away and get a Bell& Carlson Medalist. Great stock for the money. I'd suggest Burris Signature Zee rings for two reasons. Don't have to lap the rings, and can add up to 20MOA in the rings using the provided inserts(30mm). Scope is a subjective thing. I've grown fond of Vortex scopes because they offer a lot of glass for the money. I'd suggest either a Viper or a Viper PST. They will certainly meet your needs, especially starting out.
     
  9. tomrich

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    I perfer my savage 110 in the .270 caliber just two questions how far are you shooting and what are you shooting at? the .270 has a flatter trajectory than most .30 caliber bullets but it does tend to have less knock down power
     
  10. M14sRock

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    Unless I am have lost my mind, both of the rifles he mentioned are bolt actions.

    That said, I would start off with a decent traditional bolt gun. Savage, Howa, Remington, Browning, Winchester, FN SPR, etc. Maybe a Robar SR60 or SR90? Tons of great choices.

    Caliber and optics are debates that could go on for ever. Desired range will narrow that debate down a lot.

    Factory ammo? Reloading your own?
     
  11. rugermatt

    rugermatt New Member

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    i would suggest a remington 700, this is one of the greatest rifles ever made and you can find them used most of the time so you wont have to break the bank. i have heard good things about the savage also, but i have never shot one so i can't speak first hand.
     
  12. JonathanGlass

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    yes, remington model 700's are good, I have one myself in .243 cal. When sighting it in last winter for deer season I only got to take two shots with it, I put both of them right next to each other at 60 yds with federal ammo. Here's the gun
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  13. Txhillbilly

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    Hello Tony,and welcome to the forum.

    What ranges are you wanting to be able to shoot? 300yrds-600yrds-1000yrds?

    Now if you want to shoot long range,past 300yrds,you will need to practice quite a bit and know how to factor in alot of variables-bullet speed/drop,wind,temp.,elevations,etc..It can take a person with little experience a long time to learn how to shoot long range.

    There are so many different calibers you could choose from to shoot at any of the distances listed. Do you plan on hunting at all with the rifle? If so,you want to get a caliber that you can get a variety of bullets for hunting/shooting targets.
    Do you plan on reloading or just buy ammo off the shelf? This will also come into play with what caliber you want to choose. If you can't find ammo easily,or it is extremely high priced,what good is it going to do you if you can't go shooting.

    I would suggest a caliber like a 223,243,or 308 to begin with. The 223 or 243 will shoot targets out to 600yrds pretty easy,and are great small game calibers with the 243 also being a good deer cartridge.
    The 308 will shoot 1000yrds with a capable shooter,and is also a good hunting caliber for most large game in the USA.

    Rifles-I will also suggest a bolt action to start with.
    I'm kinda partial to Savage.I have 3 of their heavy barreled rifles-25/06,308,300WM. Savage makes some great rifles,but Remington,Howa,Tikka,Winchester,and others do also. It's whatever you like the most,the way I see it.
    Remington and Savage have a pretty big aftermarket for their rifles,so if you like to add/change things,I'd start there.

    Scopes-You will get a different answer from every person on this subject.
    You get what you pay for! I would rather put a $800 scope on a $100 gun,than a $100 scope on a $800 gun.
    If you want to shoot long range you will need quality optics. There are too many brands out there to list,but you need to make sure that whatever scope you choose has enough adjustment to shoot long range.
    If you use a 20moa base,most scopes will work.
     
  14. UnderFire

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    If you're buying new...
    I'd check out Savage Arms' rifles. Best bang for the buck.
    Closes you'll get to a custom rifle for a standard price.
    Go to Savage Arms' website and look at their product list.
    I believe you'll be impressed.
     
  15. skullcrusher

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    How would your parents feel about you spending a boat load of $ on a rifle while they are writing checks to the bursar? That is, unless you are on a full ride.

    Anyway, if you must have something that won't drain your "bank account" since you have been working and saving very well since so long ago (4 years to save up that load of cash...), then I say look at the Marlin XL-7 in a .270 or .30-06. Have the trigger worked and the barrel floated on a glass bed. All in all, you might have around $6-800 invested after so. That way, you can get great glass and still have plenty for a truckload of ammo. The XL-7 is available now with wood furniture based on the H&R and NEF look. Damn spiffy.

    (I wish that I had saved up as much as you before going to college. I started working at 15 and I can say that by default of becoming a college student...never did I have that cashola at any one time.)

    Since you mentioned having a "bad ***" rifle, then look into the .50 BMG realm. Not much more "bad ***" than that....:rolleyes:
     
  16. jpattersonnh

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    Howa 1500. Makes the 700 look like a kids toy. It is cheaper to buy also.
     
  17. lonyaeger

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  18. wickedins4nity

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    I recently got a Remington 700 SPS in .300 Win Mag. Im not real fond of the plastic stock, but it does well for what I need. Usually 200-400 yards shots at silhouettes and clays. I have it set up with a Nikon 3x9x40 scope and Harris bipod. It works very well and IMO its a great rifle
     
  19. ninjatoth

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    My friend just bought his first rifle and he got a 700 in .270,then he shopped around for scopes and decided on the Nikon3-9x40 too.
     
  20. Silvertip 44

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    Txhillbill gave you some good info there. Some of my shooting friends at the range are shooting Savage precision .308s and they are excellent rifles especially with the accutrigger and stock.
    I have three Remington 700s the milspec 5R in .223, .308 and .300 Win Mag in HS Precision stocks. They are true tack drivers especially after they were bedded and had trigger jobs.
    I am just a 700 fan.
    I have shot the .223 and the .308 out to 500 yards and they are right on, but I'm still working on loads for the .300 and hope to have it ready for long range next week.
    You won't go wrong with the M700 either but you don't want the injection moulded plastic stocks.