looking to buy a .22 or 17 hmr

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by xXtacticalrimfireXx, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. xXtacticalrimfireXx

    xXtacticalrimfireXx New Member

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    Has to be a bolt gun ill spend 250 and no more no 10/22' s I don't want a money pit lol post pics if you have them

    (remington scoremaster a.k.a "squirrelmaster")
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Mossberg has an inexpensive .17 HMR, bought one, sold it two weeks later, bought a Savage 93 heavy barrel. Never looked back. Shoots like a laser- 5 rounds, 100 yards, 1/4 inch. Will run you a bit over $250, though.
     

  3. Paladin201

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    I had a Savage 93 heavy barrel .17 HMR, before I gave it to my son. Arghhh.

    From a bench at 50 yards I could sit there and put rounds through the same hole.
     
  4. jpattersonnh

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    Marlin 917V has been very good to me. I can rhyme! It took a few hundred rounds of 20gr to get it to shoot 17gr well. Nice little rifle! I put an older 6-24x40mmAO on it and was not happy. Replaced it w/ a Bushnell 4-12x42mm and it is VG now. Pic is old scope.
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  5. xXtacticalrimfireXx

    xXtacticalrimfireXx New Member

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    Ill buy that old scope

    (remington scoremaster a.k.a "squirrelmaster")
     
  6. jpattersonnh

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    It came off my .308HB. If you really want it, 40.00. You need to make sure the turret screws are tight. I thought it was way to much for .17HMR.
     
  7. joshobrien77

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    I have a pre-trigger savage m93. Heavy barrel and black laminate stock. Simply put its a tack driver. I struggled with the.scope it had when I bought it ($200) so I replaced it with a NIKON pro-staff 22 rimfire bdc scope in 3-9. Used the spot on software to figure out my hold distances and then took it to the dog towns in Wyoming. In light wind its deadly out to 150 and you can make luck hits out to 200+.
     
  8. dks7895

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    I like the 22LR in a Marlin or Savage. They both offer lots of choices. I'm sure you'll find something in your price range. Another sleeper is the Winchester Wildcat. 17HMR is too expensive to plink with, I prefer 223 to 17HMR.
     
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  9. hardluk1

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    dks7895 With 17hmr going for $10.25 to 16.00 a box for 50 rounds at any store and being very accurate too its very hard for a 223 ammo to be cheaper , Only stuff like tula can almost do that and the better .223 nope ,can't do it with cost of 5.00 to 29.00 dollars for 20 rounds. First you have to find cheap ammo local or hope wally world has some in stock. Then it still ain't always cheaper. Don't for get shipping cost if ordered. And most all 17's can put there rounds in a pop can bottom at 200 yards too. Not may Ar's will do that even with good ammo at twice the cost of the rifle. Its way more on what your looking for .
     
  10. griffin81

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    Can't go wrong with the savage.
    Bought this on for the wife a few years back she loves it.
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    play the victim, be the victim
     
  11. jpattersonnh

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    Agreed! The .17HMR is more cost effective in both the cost of the Rifle and ammo compared w/ .223. The .22WMR or .17HMR also bring something to the table for those that live in Rimfire only areas. You can hunt vermin! Sure you give up distance and stopping power, but it beats watching TV!;)
     
  12. dks7895

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    I agree that 223 ammo is a few dollars more than 17hmr. But 17hmr is WAY more than 22lr. For the price per round, I prefer the 223 to the 17hmr or 22wmr. I can also reload 223. My bolt action 223 is very accurate out to 300 yards. The 17hmr or 22wmr can't compare. Rimfires are great, but the 22lr is the best of them. If you want more, step into centerfire. Just my opinion.
     
  13. hardluk1

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    dks7895 I know .22 cheaper with some ammo. But not much if accuracy is top of the list. Most of my afordable 22 ammo is 6 to 10 dollars for 50 with a better grade running around 15 dollars our 22 rifle can shoot around 3/4" at 100 yards, maybe down to 9/16ths with the better stuff on a good day. I can justify the 15 to 20 dollar ammo but it will make groups smaller. I know some 223 bolts can do that and better with handloads or maybe with some quality national match factory ammo. But with only 250 dollar to spend ,that kills off most any beater 223 rifle bolt and also kills off handloading. So again with rimfire rifles cost basicly the same for .22lr and 17 cals and ammo about the same price when accuracy is wanted it a flip of the coin. Just depends on if you want to play well at the longer ranges that a .22lr can't. Not to say you can still compete in apple seed match's at longer distance. Now its how to spend that 250 bucks on a respectable rimfire. Finding dealer that dicounts there firearms to help.
     
  14. clr8ter

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    Griffin 81 & C3shoooter, I just bought one, too. But, mine's LH, and I had it re barreled by Savage to 22 WMR. I assume yours are 17 HMR?
     
  15. VASH1456

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    I bought a remington 552 speedmaster from my friend for $100. It's semi-auto and shoots .22 shorts,longs, and long-rifle ammo. It's does quarter sized groups at 75 yards. It's a fun plinker.
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i too have the Savage M93r17 heavy barreled rimfire, came with a 3-9x40 scope and replaced it about three years ago with a BSA Sweet 17 scope in 6-18x40. i think i paid about $265 + tax at Gander Mountain about seven years ago. it shoots great, but the ammo it the highest of all the rimfires. i pay about $12-20 for a box of 50 for 17hmr ammo locally, and about $18 for a box of 555 at wallyworld.
     
  17. dks7895

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    If you are spending $10 or more for 50 rounds of 22lr then you take rimfires way more serious than I do. My Savage Mark II will shoot quarter size groups at 50 yards using Winchester 555 bulk ammo. That ammo is plenty accurate for my needs and costs $18 for 555 rounds. I had a Marlin 917V that shot dime sized groups at 100 yards on a calm day. Add a little wind to that and those groups opened up...a lot. Comparing the cost of 22lr to 17hmr explains itself, 500 rounds of 17hmr is going to cost $125 if not more. And you can't reload it. In my eyes it's not cost effective. If I need to shoot further than my 22lr can handle, I reach for my 223...and reload the empties. Don't get me wrong, the 17hmr and 22wmr are cool and have their place. I just can't justify the cost.
     
  18. hardluk1

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    dks REMEMBER Theres only 250 dollars to spend on a rifle. Forget the .223. And ya, I do like smaller groups. 3/4inch at 50 yards, wooopeee. A marlin 60 with a little trigger work can do that. But a .22lr has some serious limits after 100 yards ,depending how how tight you wish to group. Point is the guys has a limited amount of money to spend. Any one can go to wally world, or a good local gun shop and get a skinny barrel savage 93 or basic mark II or maybe even a marlin 60 for under 250 buck limit and shoot 100 yards with a .22lr or 200 yards with a 17hmr accurately when wind allows and have a good time. And still the better the ammo ,the samaller the groups get. Then its the owners choice. Not many low cost .223's will out shoot most decent rimfires dollar for dollar at 100 yards for a .22lr or a 17hmr out to 200 yards. SO WHATS YOUR POINT WITH THE .223. unless your willing to sell one to this guy for 250 bucks. If you want to reload ,equipment has to be bought and with the higher cost of the rifles it will take many ,many years to brake even. maybe. If you can justify GOOD, shoot your 223 and be happy with your self.

    Remember you are the one to bring up the .223 for what ever reason. Not many of them around for 250 bucks. If groups the size your .22 shoots is fine then buy cheap ammo. What the hecks the point.
     
  19. dks7895

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    Hardluk1...first and foremost, settle down. Using ALL CAPS is the same as screaming at me, and I find it offensive and childish. I thought I expressed my opinion on the matter clearly. Apparently I failed. The original post asked about a $250 bolt gun in 17hmr or 22. I was clearly giving my opinion on the two choices. I assumed he was referring to 17hmr vs 22lr. I have had them both, and I prefer 22lr over 17hmr due to the cost of the ammo. It's my experience and opinion that bulk ammo 22lr is good to about 75 yards. After that forget it. If I need accuracy past that, the 223 has more velocity, energy and range than the 17hmr. It is also less affected by wind. All for a few pennies more per round. And it can be reloaded to boot. I paid $250 for my Stevens 200 in 223. Still within budget and still 22 caliber, only centerfire. These forums are designed to give us all a place to share knowledge and a passion for firearms. :cool:
     
  20. historydoc

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    In that price range you I would be looking at Marlin and Savage and both are fine options. Regarding the .22 vs. 17hmr, the question for me comes down to 100 yard shooting. If you are going to be shooting at 100 yards and beyond, you really need to get the 17hmr. You will be amazed at what it can do. The .17's limitation out to about 200 yards is really the wind. Any wind at all and that projectile gets blown all over the place. So in a nutshell, if you are shooting under 75 yards, go with the 22. Over 75 yards, go with a .17. Go with either a Marlin or Savage. Of course, to you I am just some anonymous person on the internet so take my advice for what it is worth.:)