looking to build a Mauser action rifle in 300 Win Mag

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by sharpshooter5647, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. sharpshooter5647

    sharpshooter5647 New Member

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    im wondering where i can buy:
    1. a good commerical mauser action for 300 win mag
    2. a good barrel
    3. and a good stock to fit it
    pretty simple ha
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    just buy the Howa 1500, has a mauser type action, chmabered in 300 win. mag., has a very good barrel already and a good stock, MSRP of $690, which means you can probably get it for less than $600. building a rifle from a mauser action is going to cost twice to three times as much. not trying to discourage you, just showing the reality of it. custom built rifles that shoot well are expensive.
     

  3. mrm14

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    A good barrel, a Bartlein or Krieger. I've been running a 1 in 11 twist Krieger #9 contour and shoot up to 210 grain Bergers but mostly 190 grain. Barrel is 28" long. New barrel being made is going to be 1 in 10 twist so I can run 220 and 230 Bergers. It will also be 28" long. Thinking new barrel will be a Bartlein #7 MTU contour with a progressive or "T" twist ending in 1 in 10.

    I like the McMillan A-5, however, you may want another type of stock from McMillan or someone else depending on how you intend to use the rifle and budget. The barrels I have listed are heavy too. It is a tack driver @ 1000 yards and puts holes in holes @ 100 yards.

    Kind of like the Surgons 1086 LA with a .550 bolt face for the 300 WM.

    http://www.surgeonrifles.com/1086

    http://www.mcmfamily.com/mcmillan-stocks-tactical-stock-list.php#a5

    http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/

    http://bartleinbarrels.com/
     
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  4. jpattersonnh

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    You will need a Magnum receiver. They are not cheap!! .300WM is a tad to long for a '98 receiver. As stated, the Howa is a modified Mauser action, it is a push feed. Very good rifles.
     
  5. Clem

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    You could look at the CZ 550 and be done with it.
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    sharpshooter, the point i am trying to make is simple, trying to build a rifle at home can be done if you have the skills and the equipment, but isn't cheap to do it right and safe. the parts to build a quality and accurate firearm are not cheap. if you don't have the equipment and skills for the task at hand, then you will need to enlist a gunsmith to do the job, and again, not cheap.

    i am in the process right now of having a custom rifle built, on a remington M700 action. when finished, i will have about $3000-3500 in just the rifle. then i the scope i plan to use is almost $2000. for the money spent, i could have two or three really nice rifles and scopes for what i'm spending on one rifle. so why would i spend that kind of money? one the caliber i'm using, 6.5mm-06 A-Square, no one chambers in this caliber factory and no one has, there isn't any factory ammo available, so all ammo will be handloads. second i wanted to build a custom rifle in an obscure caliber several years ago and have been planning this rifle for many years. when it's finished, it will totally custom and unique.

    i am, like i said, not trying to tell you not to build a custom rifle or that it can't be done, or trying to discourage you from doing so. just trying to point out what is involved, the cost, the realities, and the pitfalls in doing one. it is also very time consuming and requires lots of paitence in being able to wait for things to come together.
     
  7. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    This guys are right on as to what it takes and cost today..

    What do you want a really nice old school rifle. Check this out- Rifles
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    thanks hardluk, just trying to point out the realities of building a rifle, and an excellent link to montana rifles. they build very nice, accurate and quality rifles. i have had the chance a few times to look at them and hold them. pictures do not do them justice at all. they are truly works of art in the firearms world. too many backyard gunsmiths, what i call them, have truly butchered rifles in the quest for a custom rifle, to only find out that they were in over their head and could have gotten what they wanted by just buying a rifle, rather than trying to build one. i am not against someone building a custom rifle, but be realistic in what you want, what your skill level is and how much you can afford for the project. most of us do not have the skills or the equipment to undertake a project of this magnitude, that is just reality. most nice of the shelf factory rifles shoot better than the average shooter can. my advice is this, figure out what you want the rifle for, determine your skills and abilities, then figure out how much you can afford to spend. if you are honest with yourself, then this will determine the direction to go.
     
  9. jpattersonnh

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    Best post out of everyone! Great rifles!!
     
  10. hardluk1

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    I have run into a few of those tech school smithies that seems to forgot about the 8000 hour minimum apprentiship needed to be called a basic but real smithy. Got a couple of them in our area.

    I bumped into a guy 15 years ago that was looking for bargain rifles for the actions for some custom hunting rifles. I ended up haveing him redo a ruger 77 MKII 7mm rem mag after he him'd and haw'd about the investment cast parts. Ended up with a great hunter. #8 krieger 27" barrel, timney trigger and bedded and blocked lam stock. for 890 dollars. Broke it in with some hornady 139gr sst hm i had and a cheap simmons 2.8-14 scope i planed on replaceing and found it would and still does shoot at or under 2" at 400 yards. Went back and pay him. he said if I did not reload to find what it liked I was leaveing alot on the floor. I did and cut groups almost in half but but did not shoot it enough to justify it or try match grade bullets. Cleaned out my local gun shop of the same lot number of the same hornady ammo. Still shoots as well today with the current superformance stuff. Now that I am retired I desided to have him build me a rifle with his 6.5x338 cartidge and sako action he had developed years ago. Get back to reloading for rifles and found he died a year before. Man he made some really fine hunting rifles. His personal sako actioned rifle had a 200 yard group of .284 and said it could maybe shot better but he was not good enough. Nice old man and very talented. He had all his equipment in his basement.
     
  11. Clem

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    Custom rifles, sky is the limit, both in potential cost and available features/calibers. Factory stuff, some very nice ones are available. The Montana rifles look very nice, Winchester still makes a Super Grade that is very nice, and a couple of nice fairly stock factory rifles. The nice part is, you get to choose what you want. Have fun.
     
  12. Wambli

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    Here's a thought. How about telling us what you are planing to do with it? If you are looking for a hunting gun a CZ will be exactly what you are looking to do for fairly inexpensive. If you want to get to the next level, the Kimber line is a controled feed closer to the Winchester pre-64 (Mauser based) and a GREAT line of rifles. If you really want to go custom Montana sells actions, barreled actions and full rifles and they have a fantastic controled feed action.

    If you are looking for anything else besides a normal hunting rifle I would start with a CZ or you can shop for a Interarms MarkX used rifle and use the action for a custom. Both are excellent commercial Mauser actions.

    The .300 WinMag does not require a true magnum Mauser action. It will fit into a 30-06 length action. A real Magnum length Mauser action (not the CZ but a REAL Mauser action like a magnum square bridge action for the .375 H&H class cartridges) is a rare thing and worth a boatload of money.

    The Howa is not a Mauser action. It is a push feed closer to a Remington 700. Nothing wrong with them ut not a Mauser type.
     
  13. hardluk1

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    Wambli Good point. The mauser design is a control feed needed today for afican hunts or grizzly defence than for a quality accurate rifle. The ruger is also a mauser design.
     
  14. sharpshooter5647

    sharpshooter5647 New Member

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    sharpshooter5647 New Member

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    i have a WWII mauser now that i hunt with, which is fun
    but i'd like a new rifle, i do deer, coyote,and boar hunt, i know the 300 win mag might be a little strong for it, but thats the round ive decided on
     
  16. mrm14

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    If you reload your own the 300 WM is quite a versitle round.
     
  17. jpattersonnh

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    The Howa is a modified Mauser, as is the 700. Hell the 1903 was a modified Mauser. The CZ is a true Mauser action, controlled feed and all. I can take my Mausers apart and the Howa has some of the same lineage. The CZ is guaranteed 600 yard moa! Sorry dude, but you are off base here.
    CZ-USA -> CZ 550 Ultimate Hunting rifle
     
  18. mrm14

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    Just a courious question; but what is the real world advantage / disadvantage, of a controlled feed action, like the Mauser type action, and a push feed action?
     
  19. Marlinman

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    With a controlled feed you dont have to worry bout the round going into the chamber popping out of the action like you do a push feed. Reason being a control feed starts to lock onto the case rim as soon as it makes contact w said rim.

    God didnt make all men equal colonel sam colt did
     
  20. jpattersonnh

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    What is needed for Dangerous game is a big enough cartridge. The .300WM does not fit the bill. There are others such as the .416 Rigby, 9.3x62, 375 H&H.
    For N.A. the .300WM is hard to beat as an overall good hunter. For Grizzly, I'd want a bigger piece of lead, I'm a girly man. No Knives for griz! ok, maybe 1, but it has scrumptious mother of pearl handles!

    Can you clarify if the Mauser is reliable, or quality and accurate?? I can't tell from your post.