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I have owned a Sig 226 extreme in 40.for just about 5 years now.You will find the recoil light as the weight and size and balance of the pistol all play a part in the natural handling.I can pull rapid fire drills @ 15 yrds grouping at about 4" within the ten.You will find most heavier well built pistols will handle this calibre better than their polymer counterparts.I also have a PX4 Storm that is my edc and I've learned to tame the snap in that little light weight pistol.Not to the point of the Sig mind you but enough that I am willing to bet my life no my training.There alot of guns out there check out the cz line it doesn't have to be expensive to handle the calibre you're shooting. I suggest something that you are comfortable shooting that's what plays a major role in any of my firearms purchase.
I need to get a sticker that says my other gun is a Sig. It is true though. I use my HK while hunting. I feel more comfortable about using the Polymer in the wet and muddy temperate rainforests of Germany. I use my P226r, I call her my sweet Rosy, for competition. Ok, either a Sig or HK. If you are looking for a safety, Sig does not have it. If you are cool about that, Sig P226 is also a top notch choice. They are both designed by German engineers anyways. There!
 

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I owned 40 for years, but sold it because I just wasn't shooting it enough. That said, there is nothing wrong with 40 at all. My first handgun was an S&W model 411 in 40. I traded that in on a Springfield XDM 40 which was far superior. The gun was a great shooter, but I found the trigger could get ahead of me. I sold that because it sat in the safe too much and used the proceeds for a gun I use much more often.

I would guess the 40 haters have very little experience with the round. It is a little snappy, but nothing like a 357. If you want a 40, by all means get one.
 

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j4454 said:
Don't buy 40 at all go 45. 40 is the worst of both worlds
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Dear all,

I recently got into guns, and am absolutely loving it! I now own a gen 4 Glock 17, a h&k p30 (in 9mm) and just bought a Ruger sr22 for my wife. I am thinking about about getting a 40 caliber semi automatic pistol and would like some input/wisdom from all of you who have been into guns for a while for some suggestions.. Would like something med sized...

Thanks in advance for the help
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I am a fan of the .40 caliber. Almost all of my semi autos are chambered in .40 I sold my 9mm's yrs ago to try and streamline the amount of ammo I have to keep on hand.

That being said becoming proficient with the .40 does take a lot of practice because of the recoil. Like one poster pointed out the .40 will likely expose bad habits.

The "knockdown power" edge will go to the .40 but not by an extreme amount over the 9. But an any situation shot placement/accuracy are much more important than caliber. A center mass shot with a 22 is more effective than a miss with a 44 mag.

However, if you still want a .40 you will get a hundred different recommendations. I am a Glock fan and if you want something mid size the G23 would be perfect. I also recommend you take a look at the Glock 35. It is much larger but made for competition, longer barrel, lighter trigger, etc. so it would be easier to shoot accurately.
 

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Hey i am an avid 1911 .45acp guy it is my gun of choice but i got a buddy who has a Sig 40 and i shot it and was surprised i actually liked it, it was easy shooting and he had mepro light sights on it which gace a good sight picture. Also liked the decocker on it. If you want a .40 go Sig, Glocks are losing cred and getting cheaply made.
 

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http://youtu.be/Gsxdk1V8i-M

I don't love Yeager but this video sums up why 40 isn't worth your time.
Ah man, I have problems taking this guys opinions seriously. I have seen this video before and do not totally agree with the assessment. I also do not agree that I have a small penis. :confused: I have my own reason for carrying a .40 in the woods. 9mm will piss off a boar. A .45 slug hits like a pancake and is subsonic. Male boars have lots of thick armor in the front. A forty has the penetration power and is big enough to stop the heart of a Russian Keiler (male boar) in my neck of the woods. I stayed with a semi auto because I like the capacity, plus I am not impressed with the revolvers in Europe. Germans make great semi-autos and the Americans make great revolvers. My two cents.
 

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Ah man, I have problems taking this guys opinions seriously. I have seen this video before and do not totally agree with the assessment. I also do not agree that I have a small penis. :confused: I have my own reason for carrying a .40 in the woods. 9mm will piss off a boar. A .45 slug hits like a pancake and is subsonic. Male boars have lots of thick armor in the front. A forty has the penetration power and is big enough to stop the heart of a Russian Keiler (male boar) in my neck of the woods. I stayed with a semi auto because I like the capacity, plus I am not impressed with the revolvers in Europe. Germans make great semi-autos and the Americans make great revolvers. My two cents.
we need to quit wasting our breath about the merits of .40 S&W. apparently our Dept. of Homeland Defense also did not watch this editorial slam down of the .40. I know Govt can be ignorant as hell but it doesn't mean they are stupid when it comes to firearms.

summed up: .40 sux - go buy 9mm and .45 ACP and leave the .40s on the shelves for the folks (apparently misguided) that just don't see the light :rolleyes:
 

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http://youtu.be/Gsxdk1V8i-M

I don't love Yeager but this video sums up why 40 isn't worth your time.
In your/his OPINION...that's all...

.40 is a perfectly capable caliber, if you don't like it, fine but your OPINION is NOT fact. This Yeager guy seems like a tool, I like to get my facts from my own personal experience, not by what some asshat says on the interwebz. Don't start this whole 'caliber war' debate over an opinion...

OP-I own the Walther PPS...in .40...and it's a great shooter. Slim and easily concealable, only drawback is mag capacity...6+1...good luck
 

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The 40 S&W was developed from the reduced 10mm FBI load. After a lot of research the FBI chose the 10mm and quickly found out their agents could not handle it so they reduced the power. It took off and a lot of government agencies and police departments adopted it. It is a high pressure cartridge and has a lot of snap in a light pistol. They shoot fine in duty pistols that have a little more weight. There is a big difference in shooting them in a 20 oz gun and a 30 oz gun. I had a G23 and did not like it but double stack Glocks dont fit my hand well so I dont own any anymore. It shot well in an original Sigma which my son still has. The best one I have shot was a Steyr M40. They are importing them again and are worth looking at. The Ruger SR's, Sigs, XD's and the S&W M&P's are also very good. The best advice is shoot a few before you buy and make your own decision. A handgun is a very personal thing and one size does not fit all.
 

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I and many others in my area like 40s, they have more muzzle energy than the 9 or the 45 so I don't see how anyone can say the 45 is in any way "better", the only thing it does better is punch a bigger hole. 40 does tend to have more muzzle flip but that depends on the gun and the shooter, I have a Beretta 96 and don't feel it is that bad but I could see some complaining about it in a small or polymer gun as it would be far worse, just try different guns, find the most comfortable gun in the heaviest frame you like to best combat the recoil, also a gun with a lower barrel will flip far less than one where the barrel is high and farther away from your hand.

Come on guys, he has decided on a caliber which many will agree is a decent round, he is asking advice on different guns in that caliber, I doubt he cares about a bunch of 9mm and 45 fanboys who would rather bash his choice than offer useful knowledge. You all don't like 40, well I say give me a 40 any day of the week, as far as I am concerned the 9mm is a pos and the 45 is simply bigger than I want in both average size of the guns and the round where cost of reloading is concerned. This kind of thing really irritates me, if you don't have any advice for him then don't comment
 

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I and many others in my area like 40s, they have more muzzle energy than the 9 or the 45 so I don't see how anyone can say the 45 is in any way "better", the only thing it does better is punch a bigger hole. 40 does tend to have more muzzle flip but that depends on the gun and the shooter, I have a Beretta 96 and don't feel it is that bad but I could see some complaining about it in a small or polymer gun as it would be far worse, just try different guns, find the most comfortable gun in the heaviest frame you like to best combat the recoil, also a gun with a lower barrel will flip far less than one where the barrel is high and farther away from your hand.

Come on guys, he has decided on a caliber which many will agree is a decent round, he is asking advice on different guns in that caliber, I doubt he cares about a bunch of 9mm and 45 fanboys who would rather bash his choice than offer useful knowledge. You all don't like 40, well I say give me a 40 any day of the week, as far as I am concerned the 9mm is a pos and the 45 is simply bigger than I want in both average size of the guns and the round where cost of reloading is concerned. This kind of thing really irritates me, if you don't have any advice for him then don't comment
The 180 grain 40 load and the 185 grain 45 load are just about equal. When you match bullet weights they have almost identical ballistics. The 45 will handle heavier bullets and the 40 has more mag capacity so what is more important to you.
 

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The 180 grain 40 load and the 185 grain 45 load are just about equal. When you match bullet weights they have almost identical ballistics. The 45 will handle heavier bullets and the 40 has more mag capacity so what is more important to you.
Actually my XD .40 holds 12+1 while my XDm .45 holds 13+1. :p
 
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