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Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by jackal6, Sep 22, 2012.
I don't know who makes a good lever action rifle or what I should even be looking for in one
Winchester makes excellent lever guns unfortunately they have become IMO prohibitively expensive ($1000+).
Marlin used to make very good lever guns but since they were bought out and manufacturing moved to the Remington plant quality seems to have gone down the toilet. If you can find and older gun (say more than 5 years old) they are still an excellent choice.
Henry and Rossi both make decent levers although not IMO the same quality as Winchester or the older Marlins. I don't like the way Henry's load do if I was buying a new lever action today I'd probably look closely at Rossi.
Browning Lever Rifle in .308 Win
i like the marlin 1895 in 45-70. ive got one of their 1895GBL. its a fantastic round for just about anything. other than caliber the two big differences in lever guns is top eject vs side eject. personally my preference is for side eject. side eject lever guns can be easier to scope if you so desire.
you will also hear people moaning about the safeties on the marlin guns but i think its a fantastic design since you can activate the safety on a loaded chamber and safely lower the hammer.
you will also hear people complaining about the barrels being made by remington and how much they suck. my marlin with a remington barrel is a MOA shooter at 100yds. they arent bad guns at all.
the marlins are good guns in my opinion. fit and finish on mine is superb. i special ordered it and didnt hand pick mine off a shelf so i got what i got and its a very nice looking gun. for the price you cant beat the performance and quality
ignore the fingerprints i forgot the wipe it down before taking pics
I got my (older) Marlin for two reasons:
1.-You can mount a scope more easily with a side ejection.
2.-The insanely beautiful furniture, as illustrated by the
JonM, is that also Black Walnut?
it's not just the barrel, the entire guns are now made by Remington. I'm sure some acceptable guns make it out of there factory but the overwhelming number of first hand reports of cocked sights, buggered screws, damaged or poorly fitted stocks, failure to cycle and guns that would not shoot within feet of POA make it impossible for me to trust current Marlin production.
Even on the Marlin Owners Group forum, which you would expect to be full of Marlin Fanboys, the threads are so full of complaints about current production they had to create a new sub-forum just for reports of substandard products purchased by forum members.
I got a Rossi 92 puma In stainless which is based on the Winchester, the furniture is basic but the action is much smoother.
I have my heart set on a Henry Lever action rifle.
Much smoother than what?? My Buddy has a Puma in .45lc. Although good it does not compair to my EMF Hartford 1892, also made by Rossi but w/ a much better fit and finish.
Pick up either an older Winchester, or Marlin lever action and I'm sure you'll be pleased with it. This one happens to be a '94 SRC 38-55 mfg in the 1920's. This one's pricey, but a clean pre '64 30-30 can be had for a reasonable price. If a scope is needed for longer distance then get a bolt action.
Great looking rifle, I think I'm going to hold out for a winchester. I'll just save for one
I take those type of reports with a huge bag of salt. Normally that sort of stuff is people parroting back rumors and those folks dont even own one of the guns being complained about.
I have yet to see a bad one in a store. Yet to see one on the range that wasnt a good shooter.
They are made in the new marlin factory by marlin people who have been making em for years under the marlin name on marlin machinery. Remington and marlin both fall under the same group.
Sometimes bad guns do make it out the door of all companies but it isnt the norm.
I'm well aware that you can find people ready to bad mouth any product you may chose with or without and real basis to the complaint. On the Internet you can find some people claiming every gun brand is junk. The Marlin complaints rise out of this usual background noise due to the sheer number, persistence, consistency and IMO believability of the reports. Certainly every gun they make isn't unusable junk but it seem far too mane are.
Every one of the things I mentioned previously was from first hand reports of people who purchased new Remington made Marlins. It may be that all those people were lying in some sort of conspiracy to discredit Marlin but you will excuse me if I chose to attribute some credence too them.
No, they are made on new machinery in the Remington factory in NC and most of the former Marlin employees lost their jobs in the take over. This has been reported not only by customers but by the press and former employees.
I'm certainly not out to bash Marlin. I love their guns and had plans to buy several new before the repeated, credible reports of Remington's QC problems started to surface. Now I'm looking for good used guns although it looks like I never will be getting the 1894CSS I wanted, as the used ones I have seen were selling for 2-3X their original MSRP.
I found a 1989 marlin 336 chambered in .444 and it has a scope mounted to it already and he wants $400. Im trying to set up a time to go look at it. Does anyone know anything about the gun and the round? Dont know if this will help the OP but there are always options out there you just have to look for them. And i figure im at the best place to ask questions.
This is the first time I have head of a 336 made for the 444. Generally they come in 30-30 & 35 Remington. Marlin does make a model 444 for that cartrage. It was made as a replacement for the 45-70.
Here is a Marlin 336C in 35 Remington
Thats what the guy told me in a email. I will have to look at it when we set up a time. Ive looked up the model and it was made in .444 so i will have to see.
Is there anywhere online to run a Marlin serial number to see what year it was made?
Check cartridge availability before you buy it. Some rounds are extremely expensive. I looked at a Savage 99 in 250/3000 and ammo was $52 dollars for 20.
If nothing else the .444 ammo will be much harder to find than either .30-30 or .45-70 is. Other than that it's a fine choice but for that reason alone I'd personally pick a gun in .30-30 or .45-70 instead. Used Marlin 336s in .30-30 are very common and easy to find for very reasonable prices.
I just checked out Ammo to go and it is $33 for 20 Leverlution 444. Also found some Rem Express in 250/3000 for $30. Trouble is he wants $460 +tax for the rifle.