looking for a carry pistol.

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by shooter2440, Sep 12, 2009.

  1. shooter2440

    shooter2440 New Member

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    hello im looking to purchase a subcompact gun. im looking for insight and personal opinions on what i should narrow it down to. i have narrowed my search down to 3 guns in particular but maybe some people could help me narrow it down even more after i explain my wants in the gun.

    in this subcompact gun i am looking for something that can take abuse in a sense that itll be in the waist band so sweat and heat will get to it i would imagine.

    i am 6'4'' 235lbs so i wont have trouble concealing. i have a rather big hand so im looking for something that fits comfortably. the guns that fit my needs so far are the springfield XD compact, the glock subcompact with the pearce grip extension, and the s&w m&p compact with grip extension.

    im sticking with 9mm for a couple reasons. 1) its all about placement and i cant place my shots quite well. 2) 9mm ammo is cheap so it allows me to go to the range more often and perfect my marksmanship with my pistols.

    basically i want a gun that wont break down, rust at all, and is very reliable. i clean all my guns regularly so they will stay clean on my end, i just dont want them to wear from body sweat in carrying.

    any insight would be great, thanks guys!
     
  2. hogger129

    hogger129 New Member

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    From what I understand, the XD comes highly recommended. I am a 1911 .45ACP man, but I am pretty sure they make 1911 models in 9mm. The advantage to a 1911 for conceal carry is the slimness. Also, another gun I have seen at the store that may be good for conceal carry, and is slim like the 1911 is the Smith & Wesson 5906. I am about 99% sure they are 9mm's. Check out Walthers too. I hear they are good guns. Let us know what you decide on. Peace.
     
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  3. Kain

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    You're 1" taller but 30 lbs lighter than I am. So, I'll assume your hands are roughly the same size as mine. Probably why you're considering the same pistols I am. I don't like the Glock ergonomics (lack therof) so that was ruled out for me. The XD was nice but felt slightly "heavy" for it's size. My choice is the M&P it felt the best in my hand and had the higher capacity. I haven't gotten the oportunity to shoot one, but I doubt I'll be disapointed. It really comes down to what YOU like. All of your choices are solid.
     
  4. shooter2440

    shooter2440 New Member

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    thanks and i forgot to mention im trying to stay under 550 bucks. and i believe all these guns fall in that category as well?
     
  5. UnderFire

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    I would go with the S&W M&P series, I greatly enjoy mine.
    I have the M&P .40c, no complaints.
     
  6. G21.45

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    I'm, also, a big guy. My recommendation falls outside anything you are presently considering; however, I'm certain you will have no trouble either concealing or shooting it - A Glock Model 19.
     
  7. shooter2440

    shooter2440 New Member

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    hey you think i could conceal the glock 19? i currently own a beretta px4 storm and i feel that when i try to conceal it (not going out, but to get a feel for how this size gun would fit and be visable if i were to carry it) i find it hard to conceal such a gun that size. especially in the summer. its just quite visable. maybe because it is sort of thick? i notice that the g19 is less than an inch shorter than the px4 storm. i mean i guess i can get a feel for that gun and try it out. i never thought of the g19, i guess i was thinking real small right away (sub compact). thanks for the advice!
     
  8. ccr203

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    Shooter, have you been handling many weapons at your local gun stores? Do you have a range that rents out weapons to shoot? If so, you may want to start there. Rent and fire the weapons you are looking at and some that you aren't at the top of your list or even on it. While size is one factor in selecting a concealed carry weapon, it's not the only one. comfort, ease of use, ease of control. Large hands can have a hard time with subcompact weapons. The 9mm is a good choice for the reasons you stated, but nothing helps better than actually having the weapon in hand, and being able to fire it. Holster options come later, and there are as many as you can think of.

    Starting a CCW class soon or already have the permit? just asking as you said you tried your beretta, but not out.



    Chris
     
  9. ta1588

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    I had the opportunity to fire the M&P .40 cal last week and it is a very nice weapon, I wouldn't mind having one myself. I can only imagine the 9mm being just as good.
     
  10. falseharmonix

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    I own a G19, and find it too large to conceal.

    now, two tidbits of information to digest are:

    1) I am not a big guy
    2) By conceal, I mean in the safety of my house. I live in Illinois, and we have no 'rights' when it comes to guns.....well, a few more than Kalifornia I guess.


    I find my Glock to be bulky on my person. But again, concealment was never my intention with it.

    I might recommend you look into the 1911 platform. You can tell instantly the difference in size just by feeling it.
     
  11. G21.45

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    :) Well, let's see? This is an interesting question; AND, there are variables. It's entirely possible that - depending upon your body and build - a certain pistol might, indeed, be too big or bulky for you to conceal.

    What I'm able to easily conceal, and what a smaller individual is able to conceal can be two different things. Still, there are adjustments that can be made! You and I have similar physiques. Know what? I conceal a large Glock Model 21 and an extra magazine underneath my jacket or un:bloused cover shirt while I'm at, either, church or temple! (My family is of mixed faith.)

    One thing that makes a big difference is that I know how to move while carrying a large pistol. For instance, this past Friday night the Rabbi came up to me and hugged me on two separate occasions. (He doesn't know that I'm one of these people who are always armed; and, although I don't think he'd really mind, I prefer that he not find out. Now, our Baptist Minister? I'm not so sure about him. I could be wrong; but, his wife reads like a, 'soccer mom'.)

    This past Friday night when I was hugged - and by an individual who is significantly shorter and consequently in a very good position to discover my pistol - I made absolutely certain that as the Rabbi extended his arms I returned the gesture by holding my own outstretched arms directly beneath his - That way I could lift his hands up and away from my sides! (Worked like a charm!) ;)

    I never reach for anything with my gun hand because that's going to pull my cover garment into my side and might pattern the gun's butt. I never bend with my support side knee, either. I will, also, habitually 3/4 anyone who is either walking up to or studying me too closely. (You know, like a beautiful woman!) :p

    Whenever I do this my gun side is always withdrawn to the rear and away from the approaching observer. (In the same way that a police officer who is conducting a street interview will, 'blade' an interviewee.) I'm, also, acutely aware of anyone who might begin to stand behind me.

    Among those things which can help you to conceal a large pistol (Something I, definitely, do NOT consider a G-19 to be.) are (1) a good strong gun belt and (2) an appropriate holster. Most of my EDC holsters are ITB/IWB designs; however, one of my favorite carry holsters; and the one that I'll often wear to services is a Wm. Tucker, 'HF-1'.

    The, ‘HF-1’, in particular, pulls a pistol's butt very tightly into my side. The only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s heavily (and beautifully) made out of a thick hide and, consequently, a lot slower to draw from than the very slippery Kydex polymer that my other holsters are made out of. (This is particularly important to me because my Glock is usually in C-3; so the speed and ease of the draw is paramount!)

    If you want to truly hide a pistol then you've absolutely got to have a decent gun belt, too. I know of two principal leather makers; and I own 3 of their belts. One is a Wm. Tucker – It’s a strong, non-sagging (and very beautiful) hand-tooled gun belt. If I’d fault this beautiful gun belt for anything, well, it looks like a gun belt! The other is a BeltMan polymer reinforced bullhide gun belt. Looks, for all the world, like an expensive dress belt and carries a heavy pistol quite well.

    In all fairness there’s two other high quality custom leather makers I should mention: My shooting buddies use a lot of these holsters and belts; and, they’re very satisfied: Kramer Handgun Leather, and Bulman Gunleather. I, particularly like Kramer’s #3 ITB holster; and, if I ever need another gun belt I’m sure Bulman would be fine.

    Now, to wrap this up, Yes, I KNOW that with the right habits and movements you could easily hide a G-19. I, also, believe that you’ll find the G-19 to be a much stronger pistol that’s easier to operate and maintain than what you’re presently using. If 9mm were my EDC cartridge of choice, a Glock Model 19 would be on my belt. In fact a G-19 is one of the few pistols I don’t own; but, that I would very much like to.
     
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  12. fxstchewy

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    I have a Glock 26 and XDSC9, i like both the same but the G26 gets the nod for CCW because it is lighter, both are great but i have had a hard time finding holsters for the XDSC that "I" like, all for the G26 work and conceal great for me. :)
     
  13. Flint Rock

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    I often carry a M&P 9c in a Blade Tech IWB in. It disappears under a loose tee shirt worn over shorts or jeans.