Looking at getting my first AR

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by jamesb, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    Yep, while at the range I started to check out some ARs they had. I love ARs and really looking forward to picking one up. I don't plan to build my first. I will purchase one complete. The range I normally shoot at is only 50ft, but .223 is allowed with frangible ammo. Which is cool to me because that is where I go to shoot the pistols and it is only 10 minutes or so from my house.

    I would also go to outdoor, longer ranges for the rifle as well.

    I found 1k rds of Federal 223 55gr FMJ for $330. Good? Bad?

    There are so many brands of ARs I feel very lost. :eek:

    Most ARs i've seen at my range are around $1,100-1,500.

    Any brands to definitely stay away from?
     
  2. mjkeat

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    First off nice bike and handguns. I love me a Kimber :). The debate of best and worst is so based on opinion youll never get a good answer. There are good ARs for just about every possible use you can imagine. Many guys that are into heavy use like BCM, KAC, Colt, etc.. Customer servise should something arise seems to be a big part of where one brand is better then another. Figure out what you are going to be using it for and do some research. Only you can make that decision.

    The ammo is a decent price.
     

  3. YoungGunWill

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  4. Quentin

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    mjkeat is right, only you can decide which AR to get and that requires a lot of research and defining your wants/needs. And "a lot" can mean hundreds of hours. Almost anyone who doesn't get up to speed or puts too much faith in others' opinions will end up unhappy with a snap decision. When I re-read my first threads about which AR to buy I'm glad I didn't buy anything at that time.

    And if you're like many of us, after getting up to speed you may find selecting components and building your own isn't a bad idea at all. That's what I did and a year later I'm still pleased with the choices I made. If I had bought one of the rifles off the rack that I first considered I would have had to make many changes to it by now.

    I'm not trying to paint a grim picture, there are many excellent choices under $1500 (and even under $1000) out there but you have to know what's right for you. Good luck and keep asking questions!
     
  5. jamesb

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    Thanks guys. Avatar is old. Have a Kawasaki ZX6R now.

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    Main plan for the AR is going to be range shooting and of course zombies :D. More likely to run a red dot rather than a scope, but will be using iron sights for now. I plan to pick up a foregrip right off the bat. I don't mind a full stock or a 6 position stock, but the adjustable stock would have to be pinned due to law.

    I want one in 5.56 so I can shoot either that or .223 safely. I'm waiting for $$ from another motorcycle I am selling and will probably pick up an AR afterwards. I plan to go around to a few shops near me to see what they have.

    I really want a SCAR, but it looks like I can't own one of those :( I'm guessing it is because of the folding stock and flash hider.
     
  6. stalkingbear

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    I'd recommend a DPMS for what you want. I have 1 and it shoots well under 1" groups at 100 yards-scoped of course. The local shop sells the bare bones AR for around 700$.
     
  7. jamesb

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    Would you say that is the way to go if I want to slowly change out parts, such as rails, grips, stocks, sights, etc to make it my own? I like tinkering, but don't want to take on a full build right off the bat. I would always have spares that I could pick up another lower and build one eventually.

    I just asked my friend and the AR he has is a DPMS, well the lower is.

    From what i've been told I can change the upper at anytime, because the serial number is on the lower.
     
  8. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    That is correct. You can gradually change out what you want or simply pop 2 pins and change out the complete upper. I put an adjustable Jard trigger in mine as well as a new grip and free float tube. Mine is the bull barrel model.
     
  9. Jpyle

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    didn't know they came with training wheels...:p
     
  10. Quentin

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    Well you could go that way but why make it so hard for yourself and also why break up a factory rifle? Instead, I'd leave the DPMS as is if you must have a factory rifle first - then when you're ready, buy a good stripped lower with the logo you like best and select the parts you want to assemble the rifle you really want. And if you decide to sell it the first rifle will be worth more than a FrankenAR.
     
  11. jamesb

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    Thanks guys. Looks like my other motorcycle should be sold this week. Plan to go check some out either Thursday or Friday...maybe even come home with one. We will see! I'm excited, but I have to tell myself that I can't just buy the first one I see. It has to have what I want.

    The RRA ARs look great and are even less than I want to spend (most are right around $1k), leaving me plenty for ammo. I also love the Eotech, just not sure of $6-700 for one is worth it.

    I'm interested in this I think. I want rails up front, but not sure if I really like the look of the ones on it. I plan to see what my local place has in stock first.

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    http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=464
     
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  12. mjkeat

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    Try doing a search on the internet. A lot of times you can find one a little less expensive efen with the FFL transfer fee.
     
  13. jamesb

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    Thanks. Do most dealers do the transfer. How does something like that work?
     
  14. jamesb

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    Just got back from the shop down my road. I think im going with this:

    Rock River Arms: Entry Tactical

    They are asking $1099 for the one w/ the tact. carry handle. I will probably end up picking a Eotech (probably not tomorrow), front rail setup, flip up sights, and foregrip. As well as some Magpull mags w/ window. How hard it is to change out that front sight for a flip up?

    Good idea? I think so.

    Another dealer is doing buy three get one free on all their ammo. I am going to see if it goes for their 1k round Federal .223 boxes @ $330 a piece. That would be 4k rounds for $1,050.

    If you can think of any reason I shouldn't get that particular one let me know. He also showed me LWRCs @ $2,500 and a standard Colt AR for $1,399.
     
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  15. mjkeat

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    Most gun retailers will do transfers along with some pawn shops. Check around for whoever has the best price. Its just a little paperwork and a couple minute phone call.

    On the front sight its just two pins and making sure the port hole is lined up.

    THats a decent price on ammo especially if you get the one case for free.

    What LWRC are they selling for $2500?
     
  16. jamesb

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    I don't know the model of the LWRC. They also had a Wilson Combat for $2500. I liked the feel of the RRA for the price. I've heard good things about the Entry Tactical. I like the fact that when I do decide to pick up upgrades and I can choose my own. I'm not paying for an AR w/ a rail setup I don't want. The other shop (the one with the ammo on sale) has Bushmaster and Colt ARs. I don't really care for those for the price. I'll probably pick up the RRA AR at the local shop and then take a ride up to the other place for the ammo.
     
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  17. canebrake

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    I love my Colt LE6940.

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  18. jamesb

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    Its nice don't get me wrong, but it is also $400 more than the RRA. My first won't be my last so that extra cash will come in handy for anything custom I want to do as well as for ammo.

    I'm buying locally so the RRA is basically the same price locally as I could get it online.