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If there is nothing pointy in the UK how will they clean up all the bull manure left in Parliament.
 

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I fully support the banning of all sharp objects. Fact: The very day the Florida Concealed Weapons statute became law 11 people were stabbed to death in Dade county, Florida. </sarcasm>
 

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In the uk you can't keep your guns in your house and if I recall correctly you can't own a handgun, there is no state in the U.S like that, only some cities.
We keep our guns at home, there is No limit on how many we can own provided you have enough gun safes to put them in and got a place / reason to shoot it. If we want .50 Cal bolt we can get it. We can only have semi auto in. 22lr with No mag caps .
Your right about the hand guns they were band after dunblane where school kids got killed with a guy with a couple of semis.
 

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Well, I think you guys said that as well, as the hand gun ban hit you, didn`t you?

Pierce Morgan, in all the discussions he lead, always favored for the small amount of gun crime in GB.
Well, he is absolutely correct. There havn`t been any murders comitted with hand guns.
They only had the rampage froma taxi driver with his shot gun.....but that dosn`t count, I guess.
Also, according to Scottland Yard statistics, the amount of crime sky rocketed after the gun ban hit Britain.
But who cares about crime, assault, rape, robery, manslaughter and murder, as long as as firearms havn`t been involved?
After the handgun ban the incidents of crime using handguns rocketed, all of these were due to illegal reactivation of deactivated firearms .which proved the point that criminals can still get the guns but we can't. So the rest of us suffered because of one retard who was infact thrown out of his shooting club and reported to the police who did nothing prior to him shooting up a school.
 

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After the handgun ban the incidents of crime using handguns rocketed, all of these were due to illegal reactivation of deactivated firearms .which proved the point that criminals can still get the guns but we can't. So the rest of us suffered because of one retard who was infact thrown out of his shooting club and reported to the police who did nothing prior to him shooting up a school.
It`s not only crime with hand guns, that rocketed up.
According to the Scottland Yard reports, crime in general has gone sky high.
If I am correct, London is one of the most violent cities in Europe. Knife stabbings, beatings, robbery, rape, etc.

Here in germany, it`s similar. two idiots went into schools and killed several children. The school shooting in Erfurtm where it was always told, hat the shooter had the firearms legally, he had them illegally. Because he faked the papers for getting the firearms.
And in 2009, when the 17 year old kid shot 16 people and himself in Winnenden, he stole the Beretta from his father, who kept that gun in his closet instead of the gun vault, where it was supposed to be by law.
 

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We keep our guns at home, there is No limit on how many we can own provided you have enough gun safes to put them in and got a place / reason to shoot it. If we want .50 Cal bolt we can get it. We can only have semi auto in. 22lr with No mag caps .
Your right about the hand guns they were band after dunblane where school kids got killed with a guy with a couple of semis.
.22wmr is also legal in semi-auto and pump action, and smooth bore shotguns are ok in semi-auto and pump action but certainly no center-fire rifles are allowed in either format. Lever actions are ok in any caliber though.

So a saiga 12 with solid slug ammo is the closest we can get to an "assault" rifle. As long as you have a firearms license there is no magazine capacity limit.

Handguns are still legal for target shooting and humane dispatch in many the British crown dependencies and even the Falklands Islands. You can actually still get handguns for concealed carry in northern ireland which is part of the UK. So even they understand the justifacation for armed civilians who are vunerable to criminal attacks etc. Otherwise there are no other circumstances that I can think of where you as a civilian can get a firearm to actually protect yourself, but thats not to say you cant use your sporting firearms in self defense like occasionally happens in robberies. But that is very likely to see you behind bars if you kill the invader.
 

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Its insane that the reaches of government worldwide have just kept going deeper and further. For Our Own Good is a battlecry we have heard from the Republi-Crats all too often and it can only end badly if we dont stop it here and now. The perfect world sounds great but you wont get one by limiting the rights of those who follow the laws. Murder and Malfeasance are nothing new, just timeless, ageless reminders that we are all just human in the end, some are defective and things we can do to stop them from being evil are useful and nothing else.
 

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.22wmr is also legal in semi-auto and pump action, and smooth bore shotguns are ok in semi-auto and pump action but certainly no center-fire rifles are allowed in either format. Lever actions are ok in any caliber though.

So a saiga 12 with solid slug ammo is the closest we can get to an "assault" rifle. As long as you have a firearms license there is no magazine capacity limit.

Handguns are still legal for target shooting and humane dispatch in many the British crown dependencies and even the Falklands Islands. You can actually still get handguns for concealed carry in northern ireland which is part of the UK. So even they understand the justifacation for armed civilians who are vunerable to criminal attacks etc. Otherwise there are no other circumstances that I can think of where you as a civilian can get a firearm to actually protect yourself, but thats not to say you cant use your sporting firearms in self defense like occasionally happens in robberies. But that is very likely to see you behind bars if you kill the invader.
We can get hand guns on normal licence where it's permitted to shoot them but they have extended barrels and an arm brace. Pretty pointless really you may as well get an underlever, which is what I did. Even our Olympic shooters have to train abroad. Never get hand guns back No matter what the stats prove the general public Just Don't know enough about firearms to make informed decision and instead believe govt. And media.
 

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In the uk you can't keep your guns in your house and if I recall correctly you can't own a handgun, there is no state in the U.S like that, only some cities.
That's not correct. All firearms have to be kept at the owners home address in a approved gun cabinet. Where else would you keep them. As for handguns i can buy any handgun i want i own 4 the ban did not apply in this part of the UK. Just as there are different gun laws in states in America the laws are different in regions of the UK.
 

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England's gun crime rate went up after the ban -- there's a whole display on it at The Armouries Museum in Leeds.

Gun crime has gone up 48% in England over the past three years. They have lost the country and don't even know it.

Scotland has the HIGHEST violent crime rate in the world.

Nobody notices stats on Ireland, the poorest of the industrialized nations -- the South is kinda a suburb of the British Midlands which goes there on ferries over the weekends to show the Irish how to drink and to tell what Americans would call "Polish jokes" but about their gaelic hosts. It's kinda sad...
 

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All firearms have to be kept at the owners home address in a approved gun cabinet. Where else would you keep them.
I often keep one in a lockbox locked to my seatpost in my car. My nephews each have some firearms at their parents' home, in the event they wish to hunt at their childhood hunting grounds. Sportsmen frequently take their firearms on camping trips or trips to other areas (even other states) to hunt.

It is sad when the riding crop has become comfortable; i wish you guys trust and freedom from your government. :(

At least you have the leprechaun's gold to comfort you. ;)
 

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I often keep one in a lockbox locked to my seatpost in my car. My nephews each have some firearms at their parents' home, in the event they wish to hunt at their childhood hunting grounds. Sportsmen frequently take their firearms on camping trips or trips to other areas (even other states) to hunt.

It is sad when the riding crop has become comfortable; i wish you guys trust and freedom from your government. :(

At least you have the leprechaun's gold to comfort you. ;)


Obviously they only have to be locked in the cabinet when not in use. You have to take them out to use them. If you were going shooting again obviously you would take the firearm in the car. You can only use them on land that you have permission to shoot on if you didn't it would be armed trespass.
 

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As I recall when I was in N. Ireland there were all manner of gun laws. They had a caliber limit. It was very difficult to wn anything as large as even a .270. They were waiting for an approval to get the little .17 Remington added to guns approved for the civilains. That was in 1994.
 

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That's not correct. All firearms have to be kept at the owners home address in a approved gun cabinet. Where else would you keep them. As for handguns i can buy any handgun i want i own 4 the ban did not apply in this part of the UK. Just as there are different gun laws in states in America the laws are different in regions of the UK.
I think it is england that you can't keep your guns in your house.
 

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No all firearms have to be kept at the owners address in a approved gun cabinet.
Are you typing with a government approved font ? Sorry to be a smart azz but where does it stop ? How is it that you seem so ok with all the government intrusion in your life ?
 

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Are you typing with a government approved font ? Sorry to be a smart azz but where does it stop ? How is it that you seem so ok with all the government intrusion in your life ?
Seriously, if it were to reach that point of regulation here, i would either be posting from prison or from the grave. I have a gun safe, because it was given to me. I use trigger locks that come with firearms for locking the fence and my footlocker.

We have too many gun regulations now, anything more is begging for reprisals against the government's tyranny.
 

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As I recall when I was in N. Ireland there were all manner of gun laws. They had a caliber limit. It was very difficult to wn anything as large as even a .270. They were waiting for an approval to get the little .17 Remington added to guns approved for the civilains. That was in 1994.
Caliber isn't really a issue. For target shooting the only limit on caliber is what the range is certificated for. 50 call for example is used on ranges. As for hunting .308 is popular. One limit on caliber in N Ireland is for personal protection 9mm is the largest call allowed.
 

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Are you typing with a government approved font ? Sorry to be a smart azz but where does it stop ? How is it that you seem so ok with all the government intrusion in your life ?
I don't make the rules. Its simple no approved gun safe no firearm.

Quote Applicants who satisfy our enquiries will normally be visited at home by a police officer. The Officer will discuss the application and proposed security arrangements. This officer will report to the Chief Officer of Police after his visit and if your application is approved, the certificate will be granted. If your security was installed and the officer inspected it on his visit, the certificate can be posted to you. If your security has not been installed, your certificate will be hand delivered by a Police Officer who will hand you your certificate once he is satisfied your security has been installed correctly.
 
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