Long range shooting

Now, You need to stop making sense. Your bursting the bubble of all the wanna be snipers that hang crap and use a $100.00 scope on a very basic hunting rifle and think they have the ultimate 1000 yard rifle. Even some "seasoned hunters" here make claims that are possible, but not realistic. I've said it before, If you can consistantly make a 400 yard shot at an 8" target (the size of your melon, or kill zone of most medium game), You are very good. It really not so simple.

jpattersonnh said:

Now, You need to stop making sense. Your bursting the bubble of all the wanna be snipers that hang crap and use a $100.00 scope on a very basic hunting rifle and think they have the ultimate 1000 yard rifle. Even some "seasoned hunters" here make claims that are possible, but not realistic. I've said it before, If you can consistantly make a 400 yard shot at an 8" target (the size of your melon, or kill zone of most medium game), You are very good. It really not so simple.

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But.....but....Ma uncle Bubba done toll me that .300 Savage he got from Sears 'n' sawbucks will carry real good out ta dang near half mile with them newfangled smokeless bullets. Prolly a mile with one of them thar telly-scopy sights.

locutus said:

But.....but....Ma uncle Bubba done toll me that .300 Savage he got from Sears 'n' sawbucks will carry real good out ta dang near half mile with them newfangled smokeless bullets. Prolly a mile with one of them thar telly-scopy sights.

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Humor interjected, nice touch!
With all the crap on Youtube w/ guys "making" 700 yard shots on steel w/ a 91/30 w/ iron sights, you really can blame some new shooters from thinking they can do the same w/ a rifle that cost slightly more w/ a $150.00 scope. What the people that make those videos don't tell them is they fire the rifle at the berm and put the target where the bullets hit. They use the same POA and hit 50% of the time. Barnum would be proud.

i like the one where some are of the thinking that walking shots into the target is considered accurate shooting!

i was taught to shoot at one distance until you mastered that distance, then move further out and so on.

i guess i could use the walking in method and start using my 30-30 for a 1000 yard target rifle!

locutus said:

If you really, really feel the need, enlist in the army or marine corp and apply for sniper training.

Please don't "learn" by wounding living animals.

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Just a helpful hint, former and current Marines get VERY ancy when people write A. marine without the capital m and B. corp because the United States Marine Corps isn't a corporation it's a military body trained to defend American lives and interests in the world.

locutus said:

If you really, really feel the need, enlist in the army or marine corp and apply for sniper training.

Please don't "learn" by wounding living animals.

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I don't wound animals, I kill them.

axxe55 said:

i like the one where some are of the thinking that walking shots into the target is considered accurate shooting!

i was taught to shoot at one distance until you mastered that distance, then move further out and so on.

i guess i could use the walking in method and start using my 30-30 for a 1000 yard target rifle!

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Or the guys that shoot at a target and use Kentucky windage until it finally hits, then they think they're Hathcock.

hoovco said:

Or the guys that shoot at a target and use Kentucky windage until it finally hits, then they think they're Hathcock.

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Why would they think they're hathcock? Most people in the 21st century probably haven't even heard of him lol

RCIC said:

Why would they think they're hathcock? Most people in the 21st century probably haven't even heard of him lol

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some of us have. i have also read several books about him. he was a very good sniper and one helluva a gifted shooter.

But you get my point that people, shooter or hunter, from the 21st century aren't going to know all the well known Vietnam soldiers and marines who died after that war, when they were 2-10 years old.

A few years ago my dad and I were hunting coyotes we spotted a few out at about two-hundred fifty yards so we started lobbing bullets hoping to hit our target. After a few shots the coyotes looked up at us and then continued on with what they were doing, making us feel very stupid. We never hit them but that was the day we started looking into shooting long range, and making sure that the next time we had such a shot we would know EXACTLY how to hit our target.

Carlisa said:

A few years ago my dad and I were hunting coyotes we spotted a few out at about two-hundred fifty yards so we started lobbing bullets hoping to hit our target. After a few shots the coyotes looked up at us and then continued on with what they were doing, making us feel very stupid. We never hit them but that was the day we started looking into shooting long range, and making sure that the next time we had such a shot we would know EXACTLY how to hit our target.

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what's readily apparent is neither of you learned anything about the ethics or sportsmanship of hunting. lobbing bullets to hit your target? sorry but i'm going to call it for what i see it as, stupid, reckless and irresponsible. IMO, neither of you need to be hunting as you haven't learned the ethics of it. you two give responsible hunters a bad name.

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But you get my point that people, shooter or hunter, from the 21st century aren't going to know all the well known Vietnam soldiers and marines who died after that war, when they were 2-10 years old.

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I've known about Simo Häyhä. He passed away in 2002 at age 96. He was credited w/ 505 confirmed kills in less then 100 days. 1939-1940 was the total length of the winter war.
German snipers Josef Allerberger, and his accomplice, Matthäus Hetzenauer. racked up 602 confirmed kills on the eastern front.
Lyudmila Pavlichenko, one of the many Soviet women snipers had 302 confirmed kills.
Ivan Sidorenko, a male soviet sniper had 542 confirmed kills.
U.S. snipers in Veitnam such as Carlos Hathcock (USMC) w/ 93 confirmed kills, Chuck Mawhinney(USMC) w/ 103 confirmed kills, and Adelbert Waldron (US Army) w/ 109 confirmed.

If you want to compare notes you could also have mentioned
Name Conflict Service Branch Kills
Francis Pegahmagabow W.W. I Canada 378
Ivan Sidorenko W.W. II U.S.S.R. 500
Zhang Taofang Korea China 214
Adelbert Waldron III Vietnam U.S. Army 109
Chris Kyle OIF/OEF U.S.Navy 160
Mark Osmond Afghanistan U.K. 44

Also, to the person who started this thread... MIND THE AMMO COST!!!! It really doesn't matter what gun or caliber of gun you buy if you can't afford to shoot it. I live in OK, and I just found the .308 ammo... a month after I bought the gun. I knew it would be $20+/ 20 rnds, but the way people are being these days... It's crazy. I've found lots of 300, .243, and 7mm but the .308 is hard to find. Just a thought. Happy hunting... For ammo...

Up there with the pic is a random "smiley face." I don't know how that got there. It's supposed to say .308cal

the Remington M770 is not considered to be any sort of long range target rifle, unless your idea of long range is under 300 yards.

i have owned one and shot many others in various calibers. they are about as good as Minute Of Deer at best.

the stock is flimsy as hell, heavy gritty trigger, bolts binds and sometimes fails to feed shells smoothly and the barrel is press-fitted into the reciever. not any aftermarket support. they were designed a cheap entry level hunting rifle, hence the cheap price when bought.

I suppose you missed the part about the rails I'm adding/added and the fact that its the .308... Sorry you had ****ty luck with your firearm, but it's ability is only as good as the trigger man's. I never said anything about having the longest shooting, most expensive gun. If you want to get on here and be a douche, the only thing i have to say to you is...happy hunting.