long range nub

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by homelessguy01, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. homelessguy01

    homelessguy01 New Member

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    Hey guys been a while since I've posted,
    Just bought myself a bolt gun, a savage fcp-sr. I guess I'm just looking for general pointers, is the included rail any good? I was leaning towards a vortex 6.5-20x 50 for glass, anyone have any experience with it? Reticle options has me a bit bamboozled aswell I was thinking of going mill dot, does the bdc have any advantages over it? Thanks guys
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  2. mrm14

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    Stay away from the BDC reticles. My brother has the Vortex Viper PST EBR-1 Reticle (MRAD) in 6-24X50 and it works extremely well for him.

    http://www.vortexoptics.com/product...fp-riflescope-with-ebr-1-mrad-reticle/reticle

    http://www.vortexoptics.com/uploads/web_man_viper-pst-6-24x50-ffp_r624f1-m-12a.pdf

    These scopes can be had for new for less then $950.00. My brother paid $849.00 for his January this year from a local gun shop.

    The rail is good, but, depending on the caliber of the rifle, you may want to change it out to a +20 moa rail for extreme long distance.
     
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  3. homelessguy01

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    Its a 308, I take it+ 20 moa rails raise it 20 moa over the bore axis?
     
  4. homelessguy01

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    Doh! the included rail is a 20moa version..
     
  5. mrm14

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    If your going to go to much over 600 to 700 yards with a .308 Win., a +20 moa rail is a good idea. The +20 moa. rail cants the scope downward toward the muzzle. You may find that the Picatinny rail that you have now is one with a +20 moa cant.
     
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  7. homelessguy01

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    Thanks man, I appreciate it, ill be sure to post. Range report after I get an optic over the next week or so, I'm confident the rifle will be outshooting me haha
     
  8. JonM

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    i had one of the very first 10 fcp-sr out of the factory. mine was put together by a goon. the barrel nut was torqued so hard it was constricting the barrel giving extremely poor performance, the firing pin was bent and it had trouble igniting primers, the scope rail was barely attached.

    after several back and forths with savage i never got anything but i wasnt pulling the trigger correctly... piss poor customer service. i consider savage one of the worst companies for after the sale service. your pretty much on your own with them.

    the ONLY reason i like savage rifles is im able to do everything myself.

    after i remounted and correctly headspaced the barrel and replaced the barrel nut after having to cut the original off remounting the rail torquing it all down correctly and replacing the bolt its a .5 moa gun at 300 yards. fantastic shooter. it went from a 100yd 6+" shooter with sierra 168 mkbthp to a 100yd .5" gun

    my wife now has it after she fell in love with it. its got a nightforce 3.5-15 nxs ffp with moa reticle and moa knobs. this gun loves sierra matchking 168grain bthp
     
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  9. Triumphman

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    I've seen where Guys were breaking the distance barriers and shooting over 1 mile with a 338 Laupa. Yes, you read that correct. Over 1 mile. The Bullet was dropping somewhere around 130 feet. The Shooter was shooting from a Mountain Ridge across into the next Valley. It was amazing. The Target was a Steel Plate that was like 4x4 feet and hanging on a Chain for the Gong effect. Now, if you're going for something like this, forget about what MOA Rail you might have, as it won't help you anyway at these distances.
    What you will need is a good Bipod and some (very) good Glass. I would also suggest Burris Signature Zee Rings with different Inserts to help with good Scope adjustments, without going crazy with Ring alignment, and hitting those Targets at the distances you want. Also nice Rifle.
    Del
     
  10. homelessguy01

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    Thanks guys ill have to buy myself a torque wrench and check that out, any recomendations for good glass in around 500 until I save up for a nightforce or schmidt?
     
  11. JonM

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    I prefer the nightforce over schmidt and bender. You get more scope for the money.

    Anyone that owns a rifle should have a good inch pound torque driver. I like the wheeler fat wrench. Its accurate enough to cover almost any job on a rifle. Just retorquing the action screws correctly and the same each time will help.
     
  12. homelessguy01

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    Thanks john, good advice as always
     
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    Another quick question on scope rings, I'm looking at getting a scope with a 50mm objective what size rings do I get? I'm looking at seekins and I'm not sure what the correct height is
     
  14. Triumphman

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    For the Rings, it will depend on whether the Scope has AO or Side Focus.
    If it has AO then you will need Rings that are Taller to account for the extra thickness of the AO surrounding the Front Lens Bell. Anywhere between Tall to Extreme Tall depending on Scope chosen and staying with 50mm Objective.
    Del
     
  15. 7.62 Man

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    If you like long range you will love this guys links.

    http://8541tactical.com/

    Lots of info, ideas, shooting & more.
     
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    Using a rail,a Medium set of rings will work just fine for a 50mm Objective on any Savage 10/110 platform.
    I've got 7-8 Savage rifles,and all have rails/medium rings/50 mm Objective scopes.
     
  17. homelessguy01

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    Hi guys I've been optic hunting for the past few days and am leaning towards waiting a little while and picking up a nightforce, been looking at thier 5.5-22x56 nxr I think its called, and was looking for practical feedback, is it worth the ezta money over a vortex pst with ffp? Its a second focal reticle. I really like the idea of ffp but is it really that much of a hinderance not having it?
     
  18. mrm14

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    On a second focal plane scope every time you change magnification your point of impact changes. Not so with a first focal plane scope. In my opinion the ffp scope is more than worth it.
     
  19. hoovco

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    +1 on the fat wrench. I love mine. It's one of the tools I use more often.