Long Range Mosin Nagant Tally

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by SGT-MILLER, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    This is for the current/past Mosin owners.

    What is the longest range you have shot, and what is the best grouping?

    I'm asking because I am going to see how well I can get my 1928 Hex M91/30 to group, and I'd like to see what the averages are in order to maintain/modify my current goal.

    So far, I've gotten an M44 to group at 3.8 inches at 200 yards with 160 grain Yugo FMJ and using my ALICE pack as a improvised forward rest.

    Right now I'm shooting for 2 inch groups with my M91/30 at 200 yards. If I can do that consistently, I can call my Mosin Nagant an MOA rifle at 200.

    There's a guy on youtube (Mag30th) that has shot his M91/30 scoped at 1000 yards, and his M44 scoped at 420 yards so I know it's at least possible.
     
  2. LittleBear

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    Normally My 91/30 at 200 yards will do around 2 inchs. It depends on how well my shooting is really...But the gun itself does wonderfully. I truely think that people underestimate these rifles.
     

  3. opaww

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    I think Mt 91/30 was 4 inch groups at 200 yards
     
  4. NitroxAZ

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    Depending on my day (not the rifle) I am in the 4" - 5" range at 200 yards using Bulgarian Light Ball 148 grain FMJ with no scope. I have been wanting to put a scope on it but budget doesn't allow for the bent bolt and scope mount right now.

    Let us know how it turns out.
     
  5. jpattersonnh

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    I have never heard of 160gr Yugo ammo. Light ball is from 147..152gr and heavy ball is 179..182gr for surplus ammo. The Current brass case Yugo ammo is 182gr. The 91/30 is designed to hit a man sized target to 400 yards, That is a pattern, not a group. 3 to 6" at 100 and 6 to 8" at 200 yards is the norm. My PU will shoot 4" groups at 300 yards, 6" at 400. It is not a bench rifle, it was never intended to be one. I can only speculate as far as group size on any of my 91/30's or PU. I shoot objects such as a clay, of plates. I like a reactive target. My shooting for score days are over. Paper is great for sighting in, but after that I shoot objects. Have a friend set up objects from zero to 400 yards, shoot offhand and see how many you hit. Knowing your range and using a rest takes the fun out of it. learn to estimate and use your sling and body only for support, Now you are becoming a rifleman.
     
  6. General-Logic

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    I was shooting clays off a hillside at over 100 yards with mine unsupported.
     
  7. opaww

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    I use mine to pole vault over rivers
     
  8. m72law

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    my knock-off PU mosin (bedded action,floated barrel,polished sear,trigger(alot) trigger pull is a heavy 1lb :) 5shot groups are around 1'' groups @150yrds...using my best handrolled ammo...im looking at 3'' groups @150yrds using Bulgarian light ball surplus.of course this is bench rest shooting....i should have mounted the PU setup on my tula ex-sniper and might could see better results?...has anyone heard of the myth about shooting the m44 with the bayonet extended out,helps the gun shoot better?...i have a m44 and m38 but i have not tried it....is it silly or has something to do with harmonics around the barrel:confused:
     
  9. surgicaltech

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    You're right, it's supposed to cut down on the harmonics and oscillation by making it more consistant IIRC.
     
  10. m72law

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  11. General-Logic

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    Every M44 I've shot had the bayonet out. It's just what you do. Besides...why not?
     
  12. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    During the early 60's arms dealers were selling SKS and some AK-47's to African rebels and telling them if they open the bayonet they could use it to guide the bullet to its target...It would be funny except that they actually believed it.
     
  13. DrGonzo11

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    Mine all very, the best of my Russians is a 91/30 sniper replica I just bought at 300 yards @ 4 inches, probably would be better in more capable hands. My M44 and M38 tend to group @ about 2 inches at 150 yards (haven't gone out much further than that). Most of the 91/30's I've owned do 2 inches easily at 200 yards. I will add that my Finnish M39 groups much tighter than any of the Russians, 3 inches @ 300 yards.

    These are averages for the most part, including myself and friends as the shooters, some much more capable than myself.
     
  14. lentz71

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