Long range 7mm Rem Mag or 338 Win mag

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by 94browninghunt, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member

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    Im thinking of buying a new rifle, and im all over the place! I want a rifle that's long range, i wont be shooting more than 1000 yards, but also an all round rifle that's all round because i will be going big game hunting, including some big brownies. I use a 300 win mag as of now, i've shot the 338 win mags, the recoil isn't a big deal at all. While i know both those will do well for North American big game. I like the 7mm because of the long range, while i like the 338 win mag for the power.

    > i am comfortable shooting 338 win mags at around 500 yards as of now i use my friends 338.
    >i shoot 7mm rem mags at around 580 right now

    --i know i will do better with both.

    Whats your take on this? 7mm rem mag or 338 win mag?

    Thank you!
     
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  2. Glockcurmudgeon

    Glockcurmudgeon New Member

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    It all depends...

    What are you going to hunt? What are the general weather conditions? Is money a factor, vis-a-vis ammunition? Is scarcity of ammunition a factor? If you had to use your weapon for self defense, which caliber/weapon's system be best for you? Light to medium, like the 7mm Remington Magnum, or the .338 Winchester Magnum?

    Game of deer sized, easily the 7mm, but remember, its ability to buck the wind is less than the .338 Winchester... Larger than deer? Definitely the .338 Winchester Magnum...

    Don't know if this helps... Me, if were going to move up from my beloved 7.62X51s, I'd definitely go .338 Lapua- greater reach, to take-out targets/game to 1500 meters...

    Glockcurmudgeon, out...
     
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  3. unclebear

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    Have you checked the prices of the rounds? My old man has a 7mm rem mag and it's almost $30 for a box of 20 rounds, I enjoy shooting them but it really breaks the ammo budget. Just speaking from experience the 7mm mag isn't all that bad for long range, the longest distance I've ever shot it at was 650 yards. Really it's all personal preference, although winchester has a ballistic calc that is pretty interesting none the less.
     
  4. Muliemaster

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    The 338 hands down reguardless of deer size over 500 it has al u need or will ever need an over 500 all size deer need need an deserve the extra punch
     
  5. jpattersonnh

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    Why 1000 yards? I practice as I hunt. 1000 yards is target rifle territory, not hunting rifle. A 500 yard shot at game is not for the average hunter. I get as close as I can. That is why it is hunting, not using game as targets. 7mm Rem Mag is a VG hunting round. But, on animals such as Elk, Great bear it is limited by the amount of energy it retains over distance. 400 yards is my personal max range as that is the point at which the 160gr bullet still has enough velocity and energy to do its' job ethically. The .338WM stretches that to 500 yards w/ a 180gr bullet. Reloading for the 7mm Rem Mag can be very cost effective. I've picked up Blemished Bullets (jacket color) from Midway as cheap as 17.00 per 100 and Barnes XFB when they changed the name to TSX for 17.00 per 50. I load from 120gr to 160gr. Covers most game in the CONUS. I still have 600..700 bullets of different flavors that I can load. A box of 20 costs me about $10.00 w/ a premium bullet. $7.50 for standard cup and core.

    Why does self defense always come into the picture? Also anyone that shoots at game at 1000..1500 yards should loose their license. The .338 Lapua would be effective to a max of 700 yards on large game, It has 1496fp of retained energy w/ a 250gr sp at that range. The bench mark for Elk is 1500fpe.
    1500 yards my azz. 700 yards would still be a stupid shot on game, too many variables. You would probably end up having a gut shot animal.
     
  6. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member

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    Glockcurmudgeon- i didnt mean the all round cartrdige, regarding self defense/protection, i just meant it as an all round hunting cartridge. However, you gave me an insight about other things the cartridge might be useful for and should be dependable in (such as weather conditions)

    Muliemaster- i think so too :)

    Jpattersonnh- You have given me a lot of info. The longest i've ever went with a 300 win mag was on a 8 point buck last white tail season. i shot it from 750 yards...i had a perfect shot placement, the buck ran for about 10-15 yards and dropped(i still think i got a lil lucky that day). However, i still got a 30 minute "fun" talk from my dad and grandpa. I just like to be ready for long shots, so i practice at the range for around 1000 yards. But you are right an ethical shot shouldn't ever be more than 500yards. Thank you for the info!
     
  7. Muliemaster

    Muliemaster New Member

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    I fully agree with u, most hunters are not able to, nor should they ever take a shot at game over 250 to 300 yards in my opinion tho, most average hunters dont get the quality range time as others im blessed in that department, I have a full rifle range at the ranch I shoot nearly every day, I have a serious condition called rifleittis
     
  8. 94browninghunt

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    Muliemaster! lucky guy you are. What ammo do u load in ur .338 from Christensen? and you said how Christensen makes long range thumpers in your other post, is ur 338 that kind? if so whats ur longest range you've shot?
     
  9. Muliemaster

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    Yes it built for long range, on game my longest shot with it ,was an antalope at 746 yards no wind,62degrees , would I do it again? To be honest no, if that goat took 1 step or made a turn, I would have made a terrible judgement call, I live by the code be true to what u love an hunt, a wounded animal makes me sick. Now as far as on paper, well I have made shots out to 1200 yards. Im not tryin to say I shot a 1 inch group tho. I can hit a dinner plate at 1200 yards 8 out of 10 not to bad, im sure there are others that think thats all, but im honest as far as ammo I reload using berger vld
     
  10. Muliemaster

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    Also note im not rich , it took me 4 yrs to save up the money to have them build my rifle. An the swarovski z6 5x30x50 scope was a anniversary gift from my wife of 20 yrs
     
  11. 94browninghunt

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    I'm already saving up for a custom rifle, i have 3000 saved from the past 2 years. not too bad eh? how much did your 338 win mag from CA cost you?
    and can you put up a picture when your up to it? or is it already on the web somewhere
    Thanks a lot! :)


    cute anniversary gift btw :)!
     
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  12. Muliemaster

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    The rifle was 4899.99 without optics the carbon fiber barrel ia killer it has a shilien sleeve 31inches long
     
  13. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member

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    I heard their barrels have really bad reviews? im not sure if i want to go for it? are you completely ahppy with every part of the rifle?
     
  14. Muliemaster

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    Couldnt be h happier their barrels are exelent
     
  15. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member

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    Thank you for all the information. Really considering the CA's! can i see a picture of ur 338 wm?
     
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  16. Muliemaster

    Muliemaster New Member

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    I will send u one when I get home im in wyoming now elk deer antalope hunting, will be here up to 8 days , sure hope it is as good to us as new mexico, colorado have been
     
  17. Muliemaster

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    By the way, christensens test barrel was a 300 ultra mag, it has had over 8500 shots through it , an still goin strong
     
  18. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    Holy crap do you have any vids of your long shots? I'd love to watch it.
     
  19. 94browninghunt

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    @97 Cobra, hahaha yea i'll put it on youtube once i find it :), it also has the looks my dad and grandpa give me.
     
  20. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member

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    Nice! have fun, get some good meat! save me some;)