loading rounds without a magazine

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by gadrooning, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. gadrooning

    gadrooning New Member

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    Ok I remember reading somewhere way back that you are not suppose to put place a round individually into the chamber and letting the slide slam shut. My understanding is that a round has to be striped from a magazine or the ejector will weaken and break. I'm taking this as truth because it was from manual not internet chatter, but can someone please explain to me why exactly this is???
     
  2. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Letting the extractor (not the ejector) snap over the cartridge rim is not good as it can and will damage and/or break the extractor...
     

  3. gadrooning

    gadrooning New Member

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    I understand this is not a good thing. but I an trying to understand why. What is it about mechanics? Is the extractor in a different position when it is stripping a round into the chamber. i always assumed that the extractor snapped over the rim of a round even on a round over the magazine. If this is the case how is it any different from snapping over the rim of a round already chambered.
     
  4. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    As it was explained to me; when the slide strips a round from the magazine the rim of the round slides up under the extractor. This means the extractor is never forced out around the rim as it would be if you slam the slide on a chambered round.

    Did that make sense?
     
  5. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Negative. The round slides up the breech face and under the rim of the extractor...
     
  6. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Never load the chamber of your 1911 by dropping a round through the ejection port and into the chamber, then closing the slide. This forces the extractor to snap over the rim of the cartridge, which could cause later problems. John Browning designed the gun to have cartridges slide up the breech face and under the hook of the extractor.

    Loading principles of operation

    Ejection Perfection
     
  7. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Now that dude Cane has agreed to one of my technical posts - I shall now retire and drink mojitos.

    If Robo & Cane ever agree together, will I be elevated to sainthood?
     
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  8. gadrooning

    gadrooning New Member

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    Thanks all. I understand and appreciate.
     
  9. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    I don't know about sainthood, but you were correct, and I do concur, and as for Robo, he should be around shortly, I believe.......

    Jack
     
  10. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Robo signing in to cannonize NGIB. I concur whole heartedly.

    Thread now dead!
     
  11. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Yeah right

    He just copied what I said.
     
  12. Mr. Bluesky

    Mr. Bluesky New Member

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    So he became a saint by killing. :eek:
     
  13. Glasshartt

    Glasshartt New Member

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    Well, you do have to be dead to ba a saint....
     
  14. Phelenwolf

    Phelenwolf New Member

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    Believe it or not but when you load a pistol with the magazine, the magazine slows down the force of the slide as it comes forward to load the pistol. This helps reduce the wear and tear on your pistols.