Living in Detroit

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by clip11, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. clip11

    clip11 New Member

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    I stay with my grandparents who live in Detroit. On the street they live, sometimes they drag race up and down the street. Well a few months ago someone lost control of the car and hit the garage which knocked it off the foundation. Long story short, the garage finally got rebuilt on Friday. Saturday night, someone broke into the garage. Its not the first time someone stole from their property. My grandad used to work on cars, he can do everything from painting a car to rebuilding an engine, so he had a lot of expensive equipment in his shed. Someone broke in and stole that equipment along with the lawnmower, electric edger, and weedwhacker. Someone also tried to steal his 2010 DTS cadillac from in front of the house about a month ago, but the glass wouldn't shatter for them to get in the car.

    Everyone around the neighborhood knows my grandpa is a reverend. He pastors a church in Detroit. There used to be a time where people respected clergy and wouldn't dare steal from a pastor just because he was a pastor.

    Now my grandparents don't own any firearms, because they believe God will protect them, and anything that happens is the will of God. However, I dont have as much faith. I keep a 9mm pistol and a 12 gauge shotgun should anyone decide to try and break in or attack my grandparents. They're senior citizens, my grandad is 75 and my granny is 73 and im worried one of those young guys around there may get the nerve to try and break in the house or attack my grandparents.

    Its not like im helpless without a gun, I used to box and can bench press almost 400 pounds. But theres nothing like a pistol grip Mossberg 500.
     
  2. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Tell your Grandfather that God would not have empowered man with freedom if he didn't intend him to defend that freedom. Self defense from those Godless thieves is not in deference to the will or guidance of God.

    Material goods can be replaced, but I fear that eventually their lives will be at risk as the thieves become more bold.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    "Trust in God- but row AWAY from the rocks."
     
  4. Alchemist

    Alchemist New Member

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    "Now my grandparents don't own any firearms, because they believe God will protect them, and anything that happens is the will of God. However, I dont have as much faith. I keep a 9mm pistol and a 12 gauge shotgun should anyone decide to try and break in or attack my grandparents. They're senior citizens, my grandad is 75 and my granny is 73 and im worried one of those young guys around there may get the nerve to try and break in the house or attack my grandparents."

    Right... So maybe God has had something to do with placing YOU THERE... So, maybe God IS, in fact, protecting them THROUGH YOU! Lawmen have been wearing stars on their chests for a long time, because they are partly religious symbols of the transcendent protecting force... the "laws" of the universe... the "powers" which keep the stars emitting their light and energy, regulated in the sky overhead, and the planets spinning in their paths. So if "anything that happens is the will of God"... it's NO ACCIDENT that you're there near your 9MM and Mossberg, watching over them (like a star)! This is just a very slightly different view of faith (fate'th).
     
  5. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Well said Alchemist.

    Clip, do the best you can. Your grandparents aren't going to change. Just continue to love and protect them and be there for them. You're one of the good guys.
     
  6. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I doubt their religion really has much against older people having a decent alarm on their stuff; maybe that could be a starting point. Around here (rural), a house alarm that connects to smoke detectors will save almost enough on the house insurance to pay for the alarm service.
     
  7. clip11

    clip11 New Member

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    You know, I never thought of it that way.
     
  8. clip11

    clip11 New Member

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    Yeah they do have an alarm, but I consider it just something to wake me up to grab my Mossberg if someone breaks in. I think if someone is bold enough to kick in your door at 3 AM an alarm wont scare them away, despite what Broadview security would lead you to believe.
     
  9. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I think I remember hearing that the number 1 thing that deters thieves is a dog.

    Dog + gun = best alarm system you can buy.
     
  10. ArizonaLawman

    ArizonaLawman New Member

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    Remind your grandfather respectfully of the parts in The Bible where it states: "If you have no sword, sell your cloak and buy one".

    THOU SHALT NOT KILL is mistranslated from the Greek which it actually states: THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT MURDER

    There is also a verse talking about someone entering your home in the night, and if you smite them you are guilty of no crime.

    The Bible makes it amply clear that defending yourself or your loved ones is God Given and God Approved.

    Look up those verses in the online Bible, and show them to the Good Pastor.

    In the mean time, you be their sword and shield, and God Bless you.
     
  11. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    400 pounds, Dang, that is beefy.

    A nice 1911 isn't bad.:D
     
  12. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Any chance at all of moving out to one of the nearby suburbs? Don't have to get far outside the city to decrease the crime.
     
  13. Millwright

    Millwright New Member

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    Today's reality is perps often prefer occupied homes. IAC the standard hoplophobic advice of "give them what they want" is no longer valid. Thanks to cross-border gang presence too often perps are going to bust caps on their vics as part of making their bones in the gang.

    Bottom line, todays criminal is light years ahead of the standard advice spewed by the "doo-gooders" . They'll kill their victims for no good reason at all. Witness the recent spate of "flash mobs" of black youth assaulting whites and other races. >MW
     
  14. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    If it was me I'd start visiting my grandfolks
    alot more, and visit them primarily on weekend
    nights. I believe in God and I would naturally pray
    for the intruder's safe journey into the next world.