Light weight subsistance in Alaska

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by Rex in OTZ, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    I have used our states Subsistance hunting and fishing provision to supplament my modist income, the Caribou and fish shure help strech the dollar here as allot of day to day items cost allot, just the basic monthly Local 'no-longdistance' telephone is over $30
    a gallon of gasoline is over $7.38 at the pump.
    a dozzen eggs at the store cost in excess of $4, a gallon of milk costs $9.98
    a box of rifle shells (30-06) is over $38.
    Instead of hamburger helper I have caribou helper, instead of Tuna helper its Salmon helper, Aha-Loo-too-walk is meat & gravy on rice, seal oil goes for $30 a 1/2 pint.
    I work but definately use subsistance to strech my grocers need to feed and care for 3 kids and 2 dogs and a mortgage (poverty acres).
    I run a snowmobile that should of died years back (1994 arctic cat) its costly keeping equipment running to get out there where the game is.
     
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  2. c3shooter

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    IIRC, when I was stationed there. Alaska was the only place that permiited the use of food stamps to buy ammo! Where abouts are you in the Great Land? Used to cover the area from just south of Delta Junction to Barrow (actually, we did one jump North of Barrow- on the icecap)
     

  3. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    How much do live chicks cost? Chickens will lay eggs for a few years before they stop producing them.

    Check Alaska's laws, but you should be able to build a still to make your own ethanol to be blended into gasahol. It'll take about $200 to convert a vehicle to run gasahol, but after the conversion, it can be run in concentrations of up to 80% alcohol. Potatoes are easily grown, they're plenty startchy, and as long as you don't dig them all up, they don't need top be replanted often.

    Order reloading supplies from the mainland and load your own ammo.

    Consider a dog team in place of the snow machine.

    Consider turning your residence into a hunting/fishing lodge. You know where the game is, make some money off of it.
     
  4. c3shooter

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    Matt- growing potatoes will depend on where you are- condition called permafrost in many areas of Alaska- ground frozen year round at depth of 6-12 inches. Problems with shipping reloading components, like primers and powder- which cannot be shipped by air- and a lot of places just do not have roads to them! You are at the end of a VERY long supp[ train.
     
  5. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    I'm familiar with permafrost. They can be grown in raised beds in greenhouses though.

    I forgot about explosives being banned from air shipping. I lived in Juneau for a while though, so I'm familiar with the lack of roads. I got tired of paying $8/pack for smokes, so I had people from back home mail them to me.
     
  6. Rex in OTZ

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    Frozzen Chickens

    Arctic Chickens thers some out here but its a definately costly heating a coop and bringing in feed & supplaments, the -20F to -40F temps would do them in if the coop wasent heated in some way, potatos dont grow in this area, they tried at the spud farm sight over by Selawik AK, the brewing your own would be great but the Bootleg Alcohol enforcement weenies would spoil that in short order.
    Dogs is very labor intensive having to tend them full time its almost as bad as milking cows back home. lots of feed and shelter requireing extensive $$ in shelter & feed for chickens & dogs. We just had a run of blizzards for the last 4 weeks some them were up to 50 & 60 mph winds. lasting 2-3 days each.
     
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  8. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Ptarmagan are spooked too close to town lots of kids high marking and sled necking the hills out back o town, seen lots of sign of rabbits but ole bunnies are holed up in the willow thickets (where the snow's never hard can fall through up to your chest) a fella sets snares as best he could, while out there there was 3 others doing the same thing (hunting rabbits) my boy & I take shotguns (H&R Pump 20 and a old brazilan single shot 12) may have to go further outta town, the Puma 340 is a short track and has trouble in punchy snow have added 8" ski skinz for floatation (will dig itself a hole if your not on the ball) may have change the sprockets in the chain case and re-rigg the clutching to have more low end torque for pulling hills and sleds.
    Did hear the hunting is good 7 miles outta town down the penninsula over buy Cape Blossom area travel is good for the most part.
     
  9. Rex in OTZ

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    13 blizzards in the last 30 days

    13 blizzards in 30 days kinda bites! we lost a couple sno-machiners they succombed to Hypothermia not long after being found in ther sno-cave.
    been stacking drifts some as tall as 10 & taller where they plowed snow creating even more work, the city of OTZ had begun shutting down during blizzards they already spent the seasons snow removal $$ and quickly running out of places to dump it all, this stuff is the hard snow! we can walk over some the drifts leaving only boot tread marks! not like the soft stuff seen on sled necks!
    man im lucky I dident have a whole team of huski's to bring in out the storm.
    some the thether chains are now underneath 10 foot drifts.
     
  10. Rex in OTZ

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    Cold & dry

    Well its time to bust a move been digging out equipment and door way's bunny boots were nice now I gotta move around allot so am switching over to air force mukluks.
     
  11. freefall

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    Jeez Rex, where the heck you at? I haven't heard anything on the news about such goings on. (Of course, we don't get all that much state news). I'd be loathe to part with my bunny boots. Have had the mukluks but that snow will turn to water before long. 2-3 weeks now here in Wasilla.
     
  12. Rex in OTZ

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    Dragging butt this evening.

    Im happy to be back home tonight, work had me out this week on the trail
    I snowmobiled over 361 miles on a 550 polaris, seen some pretty country, lots o critters, second morning I went out to start the 550 and the pull rope wouldent even budge, opened the belt guard and managed to get the primary clutch to turn after a couple minuets of trying, went back in and grabbed the thermometer it went down to -35 and pegged it. used a propane torch and heated the exhast manifold and she limberd up enough to start we did all 4 sno-go's was a cold day moving equipment in open country, allot was wind whipped drifts that were very hard (looked like wind whipped 1.5' white cap's that were made of snow!) noticed today all the shocks are going to need rebuilding there shot!
    We left Kotzebue to Selawik where we joined up with two co-workers and went another 38 miles out of town moving a 2780# fuel tank.

    front view of joes sled.jpg
     
  13. Rex in OTZ

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    Ice fishing Kotzebue Sound/Kobuk Lake

    Well the temps are cold (-7f to -20f) but we shure are getting the daylight now, (can read a news paper after 9pm out doors) The snow is galazeing a mite its time to think icefishing, the ice here right now is over 46" so a Ice auger would have to use the extension, I dont have one and the idea of chopping down thru 46" o ice by hand is a little daunting, I saw Fish Creek SWales has a good deal on power augers, 8" is small for these parts. I may go in 1/2's on one for this spring (tax refund?).
     
  14. Rex in OTZ

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    Wishin for fishin

    Well the Whitefish have been reported feeding and have moved through our area, folks were catching (sheefish) steadly and bringing back sled loads of 20-30 pounders
    went out a couple times and caught 2 the first night 17# and a 21# sheefish
    went a week later still lots of open holes Ice was 46" with a 1.5" snow cover and caught 3 more, the biggest was caught by my youngest girl, she'd been nagging me right off so as soon as I had a mouth of the first hole cleard cause the wind was blowing 10 outta the NNE,
    so i chucked a line in dident bait it or set the depth handed it to her and resumed clearing a couple more holes with the Toqe she pulled out a 27#er
    10 minuets into it, some the other folks reported the fish were stripping the 50# tackle, we were useing willow jigging sticks on 100test brade'd useing a 3aught Dr Spoon "gold" with a 3 fantom depth string tied to the end "thats why folks were loseing them they couldent pay out line to play the fish they'd hit the end the line and snap the weak points" we came home with more fish than we caught we left when the wind picked up over 15 mph
    had a good beat trail abit some what bumpy 3.5 mile trip back home (traveling across the drifts was just like going across windrows in a corn field) Froze the fish solid (-10f) used a bow saw and cut some cross sections and useing a Ulu was able to make short work of them hunks poping out the guts in a frozzen block and slitting the skin catching the edge useing the ulu to anchor it to the cleaning wood then rotate the fish right out its skin and then a couple passes down the back bone the majority of meat is off then a couple passes along the ribbs they are ready for anything, the kids were set on froze thin sliced meat rubbed on a salted plate dabbed in some seal oil
    the rest the meat that I could keep away from them kids, I pan fried with cooking oil and a little season salt & sliced onion served with some steamed rice, wasent bad served with Percolated liptin tea (found out years back them old fassioned electric coffiee percolators make a very smooth tea) better than a the bitter stuff from the microwave.
    looked through the freezers and made room for a couple but still had 5 fish that dident fit so I doug a hole in the front yard snow bank and buried them fish till I can cut em up & fit em in the freezer.
     
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  15. Rex in OTZ

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    Ptarmigan

    This week I had the kids motoring around out on the tundra, we checked out a couple good spots for rabbit and Ptarmigan though they were all hunted out form all the sno-go tracks.
    we were takeing a wide loop back to town when i spotted them all familure ptarmigan outlines (look like big chunks of snow where ther shouldent be any) we managed to motor close on the ole puma and shut er down. the boy's tried to stalk closer but bogged down in that rotten April snow they did manage to plug a couple after a couple engagements:D the birds flew across the ravine, kids learned that these close to town birds dont stay put and wont let ya get closer than 50 yards, they were excited and woulda chased them birds across NorthWest Alaska if they had there way.
    The kids were all talking excited on the way home and planning the next trip out
    one wants to use a shot gun, one a scoped .22, the little one wants to wear her glasses next time so she could shoot to.