Liberty Safe - Centurion 22

Discussion in 'Firearm Accessories & Gear' started by ScottA, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Today I became a "responsible" gun owner. They delivered the Centurion 22 I bought from Gander Mountain. I've given that store too much money over the past month.

    It was on sale for $550. I'm very pleased with that deal. Access point at bottom right corner for an in-safe heater/dehumidifier. 30min fire rating. Lot's of room for my current four long-guns, the one or two more long-guns I plan to buy in the near future, and plenty more handguns than what I have right now.
     

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  2. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I recently got a gun safe with the fire rating and all from Gander Mountain. It looks similar to yours. I noticed the other night, that there are four holes in the bottom of the safe, visible if you lift up on the interior panel with the pull tab. It is not going to be easy to fix that, but i think i will have to do something about it or just bolt it to the concrete under the tile floor.

    Is you safe holey too?
     

  3. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Yep, but I don't plan on bolting it down. I don't have any kids around the house, so I'm not concerned about munchkins knocking it over. And I'm absolutely sure no one is going to run off with this thing. (Many thanks to the moving crew) Might secure it at the next house.

    No plans on doing anything with the holes. I think you'll find them on just about every safe out there.
     
  4. spittinfire

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    I saw them on sale and was thinking about getting one. What are your impressions of it?

    I definately need a safe and I think this one would work for me for the next few years. It has to fire resistant though.
     
  5. amoroque

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    I think you would want to bolt it to the ground whether you have kids that could knock it over or not.

    Bolting the safe to the ground makes a safe harder to break in to.
     
  6. canebrake

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    Not sure the fire rating would be accurate without it being bolted down.

    Ya think the engineer that designed the safe expects the owner to bolt it down? The safe’s floor is its achilles heel. If it’s designed to be bolted down they will cut costs by using a thinner floor.
     
  7. orangello

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    I doubt anyone i would care to scrap with could move this thing without a mule team and a goooood furniture dolly and some Doan's back ache pills. I was more wondering about the fire-resistance impact of openings to the floor. In my case, it is on tile, so i doubt there would be much impact, i guess.

    Any firefighter peeps with input on the holey issue?


    edit* What cane said, but with a question mark.



    Scott, did you get the dehumidifier rod?
     
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  8. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes I did.

    As for bolting it down. It was enough to get my wife to agree to this in the house. I'm 95% in a better situation with the safe than without, I'm not going to push her to mess up her carpet and floor for the other 5%. That's for the next house with a dedicated work room.
     
  9. orangello

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    Tell her she can keep her jewelry box on the top shelf. ;)


    Scott, did you consider the door storage option? The one i ended up with has some pistol holsters/pockets and other mag pockets and such on a thing that mounts to the inside of the door. It saves space on the handgun storage.
     
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  10. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    Sounds good! Nice looking safe!
     
  11. fireguy

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    The holes on the bottom serve two purposes. My safe was lag-bolted to a pallet with these holes. You can also bolt the safe to your floor using the same holes, and presumably same bolts if you wish. I don't recall any documentation with my safe that required the safe to be bolted down for the fire rating to be intact, but it makes sense that the opening could cause a reduction, although by the time the safe burns throught the floor, falls over, etc. the time span for the rating would most likely have been surpassed.

    I don't have my safe bolted down for the same reason as mentioned above, don't want to go through the hassle of cutting the carpet and putting holes in the floor. I'm good with that. I have been wanting to seal the bottom holes with silicone, though to prevent moisture infiltration, got to get that done.
     
  12. pandamonium

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  13. russ

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    I just put the Centurion 30 in my garage today. Just like yours but a tick bigger.
     
  14. suprdave

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    I've got the 22. I've already outgrown it...
     
  15. russ

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    Anyone have a good recommendation for pistol storage in the safe?
     
  16. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    The holes in the floor will not affect the fire rating.

    I use the metal pistol racks that are plastic coated for my pistols. There are also aftermarket products that attach the backside of the door for storage.

    And for insurance purposes, what you and a majority of us have are actually considered residential security containers (RSCs) and not actually considered a safe. You can Google residentail security container vs safe and find a lot of information. As long as you understand the limitations, it should serve you just fine. My old man and I both have the next size up from yours and we're both really happy with them.
     
  17. suprdave

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    This guy knows...I use the racks and put them on mu top shelf. Works great.
     
  18. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I like the thing that attaches to the door with a half dozen handgun pockets, but my 6" GP100 is too long to have anything in the pocket below it. My BP pistols are also too big; the XD45 and CZ75b fit fine, as did the Bersa.

    I will probably pick up a rack as described above for one of the shelves.
     
  19. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Right now I have enough room to lay the pistols on the shelf. I'll have to figure out a better solution shortly.
     
  20. suprdave

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    I think I paid $15 for the coated rack. It saves a lot of space, and looks really good.