Leupy Mark AR thoughts

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by Squawk, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. Squawk

    Squawk New Member

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    I'm looking to put a new optic on my AR15. I keep seeing the Mark AR from Leupold. It has the weight and eye relief I want in a scope.

    Someone give me a (good) reason not to drop the $400-$500 on a Mark AR scope....
     
  2. JonM

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    Its a leupold.

    In my opinion leupold quality has gone into the toilet and is swirling around there with the ncstar guys.

    Ive had 4 of their optics in the last 8 years two of the high end a mk4 and a vx7 have delimanited the lenses one cannot hold zero on the recoil of a 556 a cqb mk4 and only my 22 efr leupold hasnt self destructed.

    I cant honestly recomend their products unless your getting one for free.

    I would look at the nikon stuff if your on a budget or vortex or nightforce or trijicon if you want to save a few bucks more and get better optics.

    Just my opinion from my experiences
     

  3. Squawk

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    I honestly just like the lightweight and reticle of the Mark AR. Gimme a recommendation for a lightweight scope for an AR with and illuminated dot similar to the firedot. I have owned two Nikons and did not care for either. M223 4-16 and Prostaff 3-9. Both were underwhelming and I did not like the BDC reticle.

    My only experience with Vortex is the strikefire that crapped on me twice. It was repaired for free both times but I sold it after the second repair.

    The SPR Firedot and TMR Firedot are nice looking reticles. Something in that ballpark is what I am interested in.
     
  4. JonM

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    lightweight and durable are diametrically opposite. you cant have both. im not trying to talk you into or out of anything just relaying my experiences with leupold products.
     
  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    first, my experience with Leupold has been different from Jon's. I like therm.

    Second, your experience with Nikon was their economy lines.

    Try a Nikon Monarch 3 or Monarch X.

    Jon is right though, that lightweight and durable are opposites.

    My advice though for small, lightweight and EXTREMELY durable is an ACOG. They're a bit pricey, but the very best always is.
     
  6. Squawk

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    I never said anything about durability. Just lightweight and eye relief. The Mark AR 1.5-4x20 weighs less than 10 ounces (9.5 oz.). And has decent eye relief (3.8-4.3).

    The most strenuous thing I would be doing to the scope would probably be Yote hunting and run & guns.
    And I just can't afford or justify spending $1000 or more on an ACOG. They look cool and all, but the warranty is limited unlike a Leupy.
     
  7. JonM

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    The lower price points of various scope makers are usually made in china and arent very good regardless what label is placed on them.

    I dont like the lower end nikon stuff, its junk. But their monarch optics are pretty good and able to withstand some decent abuse.

    I wouldnt rank an acog as lightweight for its size. Ive got one on my shtf carbine the wife uses an aimpoint.

    For the record on trijicon warranty, its pretty good and only electronics and tritium based parts have limited warranties which is typical. Leupold has very limited warranty on electronic parts. Trijicon warranty is lifetime of the original purchaser for defects of mechanical non-tritium infused or electronic parts.

    Trijicon is the only company i know of that warranties tritium for the life of the tritium and will replace for free before its expected lifespan if it dims before then. After words its really cheap to get recharged.

    Trijicon warranty is right up there with leupold nightforce etc.
     
  8. Squawk

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    Gimme a recommendation besides Nikon, Leupy or ACOG. Lightweight and decent eye relief. Something under $750. Target, bench and (later) 3 Gun.
     
  9. JonM

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    Trijicon makes their accupoint in that range. Ive got the 2.5-10x rugged lightweight simple with illuminated dot or chevron. Highly recomend em very very solid scope. They msrp for 1k but can be had for much less if you shop around
     
  10. Squawk

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    That's some nice looking glass. I think Im gonna give the Leupy Mark AR a try. I can get the scope plus a good QD mount for under $600. Gotta ball on a budget. Just got my letter from State Police saying I can pick up my CCDW License next week so I have a new gun purchase to keep in mind.
     
  11. JonM

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    One of the big weaknesses of the mark series is some will hold zero through vibration like a rock others you look harsh and its all over the place. Just be sure to confirm zero after you have ridden it in the trunk down bumpy roads a bit.

    Dont trust a leupold optic till you confirm its not defective. My mk4 went back 3 times before i said f-it and sold it.
     
  12. Squawk

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    Will do. I'm still not sold on the Mark AR. I really like the SPR Reticle on the 1-4x20. Also looking at Burris but the reticle on the Mark AR 1-4x20 has got me intrigued.

    Thanks for your input Jon.
     
  13. locutus

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    The Burris is really not bad for a cheap optic.:)
     
  14. Squawk

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    Went to Cabelas for a couple hours today and fondled a bunch of different glass. Nothing looked as good as the Mark AR 1.5-4x20 with the SPR Reticle. Ordered it from Primary Arms along with ADM Scout. Will do a review once I get some range time.
     
  15. Squawk

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    Just mounted it. Hopefully get some range time in this weekend.
     

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