LEO says guns are not for defense

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by JWagner, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. JWagner

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  2. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I am embarrassed for him. Can he seriously believe what he just said or do you think he is just saying what his 'higher ups' want him to say? I had to look twice to see if he was from Chicago but I see he's from Cali.
     

  3. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    When he says 'we' he is referring to 'politically appointed yes men' not LEO's. He would not make a pimple or a real cop's azz!!!
    He is one of those whom I have made reference to as violating the oath he took and only caring about himself/career!:mad:
     
  4. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Either this is a sketch from 'Saturday Night Live' or he had dropped too many mushrooms in his youth. As for the background ... uh? What are they up there for? To add weight to an otherwise dumb proclamation on guns?
     
  5. dog2000tj

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    "a gun is not a defensive weapon. a gun is an offensive weapon, used to intimidate and show power. Police officers do not carry a gun as a defensive weapon."

    and this man is a Police Chief? :confused: and people follow this man? :eek:

    this idiot should be immediately stripped of his qualifications, removed from his position and barred from holding ANY Law Enforcement position of ANY kind! :cool:
     
  6. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Yup- Thats why i seldom open the utube crap-
    Most just piss me off---
     
  7. sirhc

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    Why would you waste our time with a video of some Commifornia douchebag that has brain rot from all the pollution and tofu? I have found most to be illogical and brain dead zombies. With exception to a few that must have lived in the pockets of clean air and ate meat that helped with brain development. Most LEOs support 2nd amendment rights and most sheriffs a crossed the country have sworn to uphold the constitution even if they may come against what the federal governments wishes.
     
  8. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Same reason you wasted our time by replying to a post that was a waste of time? :confused:
     
  9. gr8oldguy

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    Handguns are both offensive and defensive. In a philosophical manner, you could argue that if you are using a gun to defend yourself, then you are using a weapon in an offensive manner to protect your own life and perhaps the lives of others. The discussion of what is offense and what is defense has to be subjective based on the situation. If you are walking down the street, and a bad guy approaches you, pointing a gun, demanding money or your life and you shoot your weapon...that's self defense. If, when the bad guy sees your gun, turns and runs, and you chase after him and shoot...that's assault with a deadly weapon. We, pro 2A folks and liberals, don't want to hear anything that doesn't support our political positions. If we do hear something we don't like, we attack. It's a sad statement of life in America, when we vilify that which makes us Americans.
     
  10. sirhc

    sirhc Member

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    Good point! Ya got me there.
     
  11. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    We've all been guilty a time or two :D
     
  12. nitestalker

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    This is Euro concept of handguns. The handgun is reserved to the few as a badge of authority. The Euro concept was always for weak under powered Ctgs. The 9 MM Luger was born of this concept.
    Americans post Civil War saw the handgun as both offensive and defensive. The American handgun was .44 and .45 Caliber heavy handguns.
    Many modern American Police officials are infected with Euro-UN ideas.:(
     
  13. locutus

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    ROFLMFAO I love it!:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
  14. sirhc

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    It's just frustration that brain dead people get so much airtime. Darwin was sure wrong in his theory because there sure are a lot of dumb people walking around and reproducing.
     
  15. c3shooter

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    Once again Cartman's voice- "You will respect my authori-tay!"

    In the meantime, he would never have passed a roll call inspection at my department- but George Patton would have envied all those stars! I especially liked the Bobble Heads behind him. :p

    How would this doofus like to be a Game Warden- who knows that everyone he walks up to in hunting season is holding a LOADED FIREARM? I doubt he could handle the stress.

    Here a douche like that would be run out of town on a rail. To my brothers and sisters in CA- we can loan you some rails if there is a shortage there.

    This is a political hack- you deal with them thru politics. Get involved. If the local govt supports this dingbat, change THEM.
     
  16. Donn

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    It's like the military. The higher you go up the food chain, you become more a politician than a warrior. This joker's covering his back side, mouthing the company line. Like Mel Brooks says in Blazing Saddles, "We've gotta save our phony baloney jobs."
     
  17. HockaLouis

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    Make Up Your Mind!

    Not so funny. I lived under circumstances where I had to get a permission slip to buy a handgun and had to formally request it in specific detail and with a justifying explanation. I wanted a large-frame .22 revolver and wrote it was for target shooting, hunting and home protection. My request was officially declined because: "self defense is not a valid use of a firearm."

    I had to reapply and then it was informally rejected because I could not prove I would use it to target shoot and they only approved it when I produced a hunting license which they hesitantly accepted as some kind of persuassive, validating, evidence!

    White collar police chiefs tend to be lying liberal political appointee hacks (but I repeat myself), at least in above average-size cities. Interestingly these are the same "authorities" who invent reasons to arm the rank-and-file officers with low-powered tight-patterned shotgun ammo in colusion with their attorneys, as well as choose Remington shotguns, which some of our folk then use to defend those selections for others.

    I wish everyone could get things straight once and for all!
     
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  18. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I would disagree with the title of the thread; a police chief is NOT an LEO. He is a politician. When chiefs open their yaps about guns and gun control, they are actually talking out of the side of their collective necks.

    SHUT UP CHIEF!!!!
     
  19. John_Deer

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    I could agree the with the officer if he was actually responsible for my personal safety. However, the Supreme Court has ruled on several occasions the police are not responsible for my personal safety or the safety of my family, no matter how careless their actions might be.

    Yet, when a serious threat to the police in CA occurs they put out a million dollar reward for anyone that can find him.

    We have some fine officers here in NC. All of them I have met I have little doubt they would lay it all down to protect any family. Yet they seldom can get here in time to protect my family from a determined attacker. I prefer help that arrives at 1,600 FPS.

    Warren v. District of Columbia
    DeShaney v. Winnebago County
    Castle Rock v. Gonzales
     
  20. Warrior1256

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    Is this idiot really a chief of police?