I got into reloading a couple of years ago and as any newlywed, I was on a tight budget. I went for a Lee 4 hole turret so I could load a reasonable amount in a reasonable amount of time. I've loaded thousands of rounds with it, mainly 45 and 38 with only a couple of minor problems that were remedied. So why is Lee looked at so poorly? I know they aren't the best but why the hate? One day I'll step up to something better but for the $130 I spent to get started I think it does well.