Leaving a gun in leather holster

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by cbw, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    Ok ye of more wisdom...Is it OK or advisable to leave a (blued) gun in a leather holster. I have heard that leather draws in moisture and will mark the gun. Is this true? If not the holster then what should I be keeping it in. Yes I have gun safes (thanx for keeping us all safe)


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  2. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    Leather WILL retain moisture.
    Keeping a firearm in a leather holster WILL cause it to rust.

    Store the firearm out of any holster, and store it so it's not laying down... like some pics show a short dowel or shotgun shell thru the trigger guard.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The chemicals used to tan leather generally are the same things that eat steel. If addition, leather can attract moisture from the air. Don't leave a gun in a leather holster, or the "mark" will be rust.
     
  4. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    thanx for your input, I believe I'll follow both of your advice. One holster site on the net said it was no problem. Go figure..
     
  5. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    Why not laying down? They have to be in my smaller gun safes.
     
  6. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    I also heard that leaving a gun in a plastic case with the foam inside that holds the gun tight will also draw moisture and cause the gun to rust. A friend of mine left his 870 in a Dosko shotgun case for about 4 months and it had some surface rust when he took it out.
     
  7. Jay

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    I don't like to lay a handgun down for a week or more, due to the possibility of trapping moisture between the handgun and the material. That could be just me being a bit anal about it. I have seen friends that lay their handguns on the brown corrosion-inhibitor paper that ships with some new handguns.

    I use a few of these....

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=953075
     
  8. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    Mosture on guns in storage

    Jay,

    Are you saying that the new 40 cal EMP Springfield that I just got should not be kept in the plastic foam lined case that Springfield provided me? Of course i plan on having it with me if Ican find a good holster, I'm not sure about the plastic or carbon fiber one that came with it. My dealer got down on leather as it ate the bluing off of one of his and also my Colt Frontiersman barrel has some rust spots on it from being left in the leather holster. That's what stated this thread.

    CBW
     
  9. cmarjeep

    cmarjeep New Member

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    What if you put one or two of those moisture absorbing packets in the case with the gun. You know the kind that come in the beef jerky packages.
     
  10. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    Yes sir, that's what I'm saying. My Springfield XD9 came in its hard plastic case, laying on the foam, INSIDE of a plastic bag with a dessicant pack inside the bag. I have no problem with that. I do have an opinion that OUTSIDE the plastic bag with dessicant pack, I would not store any firearm laying on any porus material. The foam that is inside hard plastic pistol cases, is porus, and IT WILL RETAIN MOISTURE...... just like leather will, and there is a very good chance of rust forming on any firearm stored in there for more than a couple of weeks. I have seen it happen, but not to me.

    If you have to lay your pistol down in your safe, consider putting it inside a plastic bag with an oil-dampened patch in there too. If you take the pistol out daily for carry, or every few days, for whatever reason, and wipe it down, you shouldn't have a problem at all.

    They're YOUR firearms...... and this is just my opinion.
     
  11. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Next time, get stainless steel if it's an option.
     
  12. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    Rust mosture issues

    Hey I'm all for input, since your post I have taken my Beretta 25 and HP Browning out of the safe, lined the safe with a gun wipe down cloth, checked them both for any signs of rust. None so far, but I respect your opinion, The HP and the new EMP are side by side o the gun cloth (with the HP wrapped in another cloth of course, not marking my new baby). I'm not to worried about them laying down. Hers is a new question. Do you unload your mags to relieve spring pressure? I've read that the springs can loose their power by being under load all the time. Maybe I read it on this site, I have a terrible memory. Now just one more safe to line......
     
  13. SheGUN

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    I've seen some nasty things that leaving a gun in a leather holster can do........ I wouldn't do it!
     
  14. 1984cj

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    Keeping a firearm in leather is bad. It traps moisture against the gun and some leathers use tanning acids that will destroy the finish on a firearm. Foam cases are the same way, the foam cells trap moisture against the firearm and cause rust. I try to keep my firearms in silicon treated socks with a light coating of grease on them. Or I try and keep them wrapped in oiled cotton or oiled paper.


    The general consensus seems to be that it is the movement of the springs that wears them out. An empty mag stress the spring the same amount a loaded mag does. Using a mag (loading and unloading) wears out the spring eventually.

    However this argument is similar to the 9mm vs 45 and Glock vs 1911.
    Many people believe strongly one way or the other.

    I leave my mags loaded and have not had any problems.
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2008
  15. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    I have no guns in leather holsters for storage anymore. Thank you for all your feedback and comments.
     
  16. WILDCATT

    WILDCATT New Member

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    holsters

    am I the only one that keeps my pistols in leather.course I have them oiled,but not soaked.that sounds like a good investigation to see what gun leather is tanned with.I have three I keep by my bed in a drawer no rust and they have been there 8 yrs.but thats me.:rolleyes:;):confused:
     
  17. cbw

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    weather to leather

    Wildcatt,

    What started this discussion was some pitting on my Colt Frontiersmen which my father kept in the leather holster all the time. There was also some rust on the barrel where it was deep in the holster. Dad used oils but I noticed after he passed on and I inhered his guns that he started to use Hoppes Gun Grease which hardens over time. In fact one of one of the semi autos I received was so gummed up from the grease that it would not have fired. Maybe the grease offers less protection than the oils. Either way With advice from people on this forum, I no longer STORE any guns in leather. The holster that this was stored in was from the 1950's so I have no idea what they used for tanning.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2008
  18. ~kev~

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    As my grandfathers alzheimers was getting worse, my grand mother decided to put both of them into an assisted living center. While my grand fathers mind was still good, he divided up his personal possessions between my mother and her 3 brothers (my uncles).

    One of the items that my grandfather handed over to my mother was his mothers pistol, in a leather holster. This was my great grandmothers pistol, she had bought it sometime in the 1930s, because the receipt was still with it - but I do not remember the exact date.

    The pistol was heavily pitted from rust. The pitting was so bad, I would not consider the pistol safe to shoot. This is what happens when you keep a pistol in a leather holster for years on end.