Lead vs copper plated?

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by kaido, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    M sure this has been asked and/or debated plenty of times between friends on and off of forums. But I'm kind of curious, do you guys find a difference between a copper plated .22 and an unplated one?

    I'm not referring to the amount of cleaning needed to be done since I've heard that the lead ones tend to leave a waxy build up as well as lead residue in the higher velocity rounds.

    What I'm asking is to do with the accuracy and feeding of them.
    I jut bought a box of winchesters Expert High Velocity and didn't realize that their not plated. Also wondering how well lead slugs tend to cycle in a semi-auto firearm.
     
  2. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    kaido,

    My answer is real simple! I do not shoot all lead bullets in anything including my 22 cal. guns! I do my black powder guns but that is it!

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  3. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    I never planned on shooting lead rounds at all either, but being pretty new to shooting I never thought to check and make sure their plated. Ill defiantly be sure to do that in the feature though.

    Think you'd be able to recommend some good brands?
     
  4. 30-30remchester

    30-30remchester New Member

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    I have heard that copper coated ammo is cleaner but cant attest to that. I do know that all match ammo, any that was intended for top accuray is plain lead. The reason for this is, the application of the copper coating is applied as the bullets are tumbled in the copper solution. When you tumble lead bullets many minor deformities occur thus rendering them less accurate.
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i shoot about 1000 rounds a month of 22lr. i run both and havent noticed any difference other than price. 22lr is just too low powered for it to make any difference. just pick what fits your budget and works in your guns.

    in terms of accuracy unplated lead to shoot better than plated bullets in my experience
     
  6. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    kaido,

    I won a state competition with Federal Hi-Power 22 Ammunition in the coated bullets in a silhouette competition and swear by them! There are man other good coated or plated rounds out there. I was shooting a maximum distance of 100 yards with a Thompson 10" pistol it was a great round and would even be better in a rifle.

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  7. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Ooh, well I guess it might not make to much of a difference then. I isn't figure that one migh be a tad bit more accurate, but would kind of depend on the rifle too.

    C3, I might look for a box of that when I'm out of these ones or if they won't cycle in my gun. I loaded a magazine up for my girls rifle and just cycled the action and out of 14 rounds there was no jams at all, bu that's a bolt so not sure if my semi will cycle them as well. Haven't fired them from either rifle yet though. I'm hoping to tomorrow sometime.
     
  8. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

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    I was wondering why you won't shoot all lead bullets in your .22's?

    Thanks
     
  9. Jeepergeo

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    In 22 LR, I have not been able to tell the difference between waxed lead and copper dusted lead. The copper plate on the 22 LR I shoot is not like really solid, like a FMJ 45 ACP. I have not had any feed issues with either.

    I shoot in a no lead zone, so I've had to go with gelding metal 22 LR for varmints. Those rounds are expensive and don't seem to group as well as even the bargain bricks of 22 LR from Federal and others. But the barrel seems to stay clean.
     
  10. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    First let me face palm myself for thinking his name had the combination of "C3" in it. :face palm:

    Now that that's over and done with, I think it's a bit of a personally pretends. It could also be that the solid led rounds might leave a waxy residue in the barrel that fills the rifling and causes the bullet to key hole when/if it hits the target, it could also be because it leave more gunk in the rifles barrel......or it could just be he prefers copper plated simply because he like it. Haha
     
  11. TLuker

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    Well I pretty much figure it's something along one of those lines if not all, but I just wanted hear from Sniper03 on it. He always seems to very knowledgeable about this sort of thing and I usually learn something when he posts. So it would be nice to hear his reasoning on this.

    I've always shot both lead and copper plated in a .22, but I always thought that copper plated bullets should be a little more accurate at least in theory. Copper is much denser and I would think more consistent when it engages the rifling, and less prone to send out a flier? But that's just speculation.
     
  12. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    I can see where your coming from.
    I usually learn something new from reading his posts too.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    kaido, i prefer the copper plated as they seem a little more accurate in my rifle. but thats my rifle and me. just try different ammo until you find one that performs good in yours. it might be lead or jacketed ammo. good luck.
     
  14. MidnightExpress

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    I've shot mostly copper and brass plated/jacketed rounds through my 60 and 80% of that was the brass. The only two brands of lead I've tried were the CCI Blazer and Winchester Wildcat. The Blazer shot great and didn't show any signs of leading in the bore. The Wildcat made a mess of the bore, it was fouled with lead after about 25-30 rounds. I had to clean the bore before I could shoot anything else. I will not be shooting the Wildcat again.
     
  15. plumbernater

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    This is what I was told along time ago. My first 22 was a model 60 marlin micro groove. The jacketed bullets do better in the micro groove. Ballard it dont matter.
     
  16. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    See, I never really thought that would make much a difference.
    Just figured that the micro grooves would be more accurate then the standard rifling regardless of which type of ammunition was used. But if that's the case I might buy some plated ones for my girl since she has a micro grooved barrel in her XT, but since the barrel needs braking in, going to use up this box of lead tomorrow....or at least use most of it.