Lead bullets and Glock barrels

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by Kansas, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. Kansas

    Kansas New Member

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    I'm sure you guys have all already discussed this before, but I'm brand new here as of today. I do a bit of reloading and always load cast bullets. Also, I just picked up my first Glock recently (19) and i'm getting conflicting reports on whether I can put my reloads through it. Most say I can't, however last months American Rifleman has an article saying I can. Little help? Please and thank you
     
  2. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    Its ill advised, but thats not saying you cant. The safest option would be to get a replacement barrel (lone wolf, storm lake, etc) if you plan on shooting much cast out of it.
    Personally, I have had zero issues with a 17 and a 19 (both gen 3) when shooting cast from the factory barrels. (Several thousand over several yrs) That is not to say your results would be the same. I do not know the hardness of these cast bullets but they are loaded near max. I have never noticed any lead buildup, but I make sure to clean the heck out of it afterwards, just in case.
    Congrats on the 19 purchase, you wont regret it.
    Normally its best to always side with caution, so logic would say its a good idea to go with a replacement barrel. Less likely to have an issue. Just because I havent had a problem is not to say its the recommended choice.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    From the Glock website, under FAQs:

    Can I use lead bullets?
    No, we recommend the use of jacketed ammunition only.


    Problem is, the polygonal rifling is subject to leading more easily than traditional cut rifling. Leaded up bore, jump in pressures. Get a replacement barrel with cut rifling, no problem.

    COULD you safely shoot hard cast bullets in your original barrel? Maybe.

    As Dirty Harry once said, "You have to ask yourself.....Do you feel lucky? Well.......do ya???"

    Me, if the maker told me not to, I tend to listen.
     
  4. msup752

    msup752 New Member

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    Skip lead in Glocks. I cracked the feed ramp and shredded the mag on about 100 rounds of lead 45's. Never had any issues with plated bullets.
     
  5. Hectocotylus

    Hectocotylus New Member

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    The manufacture also says not to shoot reloads. Just sayin
     
  6. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    Dont they all say that? Lol.
     
  7. Hectocotylus

    Hectocotylus New Member

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    Probably. I am just saying that what the manual says isn't always gospel.
     
  8. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Don't do it. If you want to shoot cast lead out of a GLOCK, buy a Lone Wolf barrel for it. Otherwise, you could end up holding this.

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  9. therukh

    therukh New Member

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    Jacketed v. Hard-cast

    Back in the late '80's, I had a second gen G22 that I used in the now-defunct ALPS league for two years and shot the Copley, OH police league for a year. I always used 170 gr. truncated cone cast bullets and never had a problem with it. I used a Lewis lead remover on the barrel occasionally and that is all I did for the lead. That said, I like using jacketed bullets and that's all I use now and I would suggest the use of caution with your Glock. Glock stands behind their guns better than some manufacturers but I don't believe I'd tempt fate with your G19.
     
  10. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    My reloading guru and one of the LGS owners I deal with had this conversation the other day. I've been considering a Glock 17/34 for my son for USPSA. He has many Glocks and shoots lead in all of his guns. He has never had a problem including running lead in his .357 sig. He said he pushes those bullets at over 1500fps in a 4" barrel. He either casts his own or uses S&S bullets.

    As he points out every manufacturer tells you not to run reloads in your firearm other than Hi Point. He told me it isa myth and if a person does proper maintenance it won't be an issue.
     
  11. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Generally speaking, when a manufacturer tells you not to do something, it's for a reason.

    Will American Rifleman be buying you a new Glock 19 if you blow up your gun or pay your medical bills if you're injured?

    Yes, you can run a certain number of lead bullets through a factory Glock barrel before it's leaded enough to cause a problem. Do you know what that magic number is? Do you really want to find out?

    It's your hand and your handgun, but if it were mine I'd give more weight to what the manufacturer says about their product than a periodical.
     
  12. Hectocotylus

    Hectocotylus New Member

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    Every manufacturer says no reloads. Nobody listens to that advice. That's all I'm saying.
     
  13. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    And every year a number of garage scientists blow up their guns.

    Can it be done safely? Sure, but many people simply aren't meticulous enough to do it the way it should be done even though some are.
     
  14. AR10

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  15. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You can take one extreme view or the other. Load lead and have fun or shoot nothing but premium jacketed factory ammo. Either one is sure to cost a lot of money.

    NO LEAD in factory Glock barrels. That is pretty simple.

    I have several Lone Wolf barrels that get the lead bullets.

    If you are afraid of shooting handloads through a gun then don't. Properly assembled handloads are no more dangerous than factory ammo.

    IMHO, there is no reason a polygon rifled barrel is a no-no for lead. The rifling should collect LESS lead than a traditionally rifled barrel. HK pistols have not been blowing up from lead and they use similar rifling. I believe there is something in the throat that is actually causing the problem. Someone should come up with a reamer to extend the throat and see what happens.