LC9 Trigger update

Discussion in 'Ruger Handgun Forum' started by anm2_man, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. anm2_man

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    I picked up my LC9 about 3 months ago. I've only put about 50 rounds thru it, because the LC9 is the only weapon I have ever owned that I hate the Trigger. I think if I would of test fired this gun before I bought it, I would of never bought one.

    But after some research, I found out about the Galloway Precision trigger upgrade kit. Went to their web site to order the kit, and its been backordered. In fact it was backordered for 2 months. The kits came in last week, I ordered one and got on yesterday.

    The kit is designed to reduce the trigger pull and reduce the travel of the trigger. It comes with the RTK trigger of your choice, a new trigger bar that reduces the distance by 35 % (You get another 15 % reduction with just the RTK trigger for a total of 50%). Plus replacement springs for the Hammer, Lifter, Blocker and Firing Pin. This is a full shop make over.

    It took me about 3 hours to complete the upgrade (included 3 separate dis-assembly due to errors in assembly by the back yard gun smith).

    What a difference. It indeed reduced the trigger distance by 50% (that was what I disliked the most). The trigger pull is just right (I don't have a gage but I would say 3-4 lb).

    I like this gun now :D:D:D
     

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  2. DrFootball

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    Congrats ! I had the Factory Trigger worked on by a certified Ruger Armorer about a year after I got the gun. Instantly, I had improved groups. Now at 10yds and in my groups are less then 2" and at 12 ft(4 yds ) I can put them anywhere I want( even play tic tac toe on the targets)....
    I did try different recoil springs, and eventually put an exact replacement (#16) Spring back in, even though the orig. Is fine( changed at 1400 rds) I have about 1600 rds. Through mine now (26 months). I'm proud of the fact that I have never had to Draw it yet in the two years and two months I have owned it. It's in a Fobus nightstand mounted holster at night, and daytime resides in one of 4 holsters: Owb- Mitch Rosen dual cant, Iwb DeSantis Insider, and pocket, either the Blackhawk#3 or the DeSantis Nemesis...


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  3. purehavoc

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    3-4 oz on a DOA ?
     
  4. DrFootball

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    I think he means 3-4 Lbs,..not Ozs....3 ounces would be a "rat hair" trigger,..it could go off if you breathed heavy on it....Try to "bump Fire" a DAO Pistol and your most liable to cause an FTE....


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  5. anm2_man

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    Typo - fixed
     
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  7. purehavoc

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    10-4 , I was thinking man I guess I should have kept mine . LOL that would be one sweet DAO trigger though at 3-4 oz
     
  8. anm2_man

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    They are OK except for some very important items. Like "What position does the the Hammer Pin has to be in". You can't see it on the video. Its shown for an instant, and then its not clear there are 2 positions that you can put that pin in. I have several others, but they did a decent job. Videos are ok, but it doesn't tell you everything. They did answer my emails quickly so that I could finish the updates. Thats the good news.
     
  9. DrFootball

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    They love their customers!!!
    I was explaining to some guests today( husband & wife couple) the difference between a SAO, DAO, and SA/DA triggers. He is about 3" shorter and about 75Lbs lighter then me, his wife is close to 5'10". I was giving him a small tour of some of our various items and their Nomenclature while the ladies discussed other things, and kept their Son and Daughter busy. He's been an archer since his teen years, so he had the most fun in my Back yard shooting My Cross bows, and watching me throw a few knifes and my Throwing Axe,..... But I think he was most impressed with my LC9 and S&W 439,.. I told him even in 9MM the smaller the gun the harder the recoil , and it took me a years worth of practice to get used to shooting a gun of that size in that caliber, and suggested he get a larger one to practice on, and something "Not as small as mine" for SD right away. The other consideration is they both work at the hospital, and can't Carry legally on premises. They can lock it up in their cars,. But they were more interested in HD anyway,...

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  10. anm2_man

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    Just wanted to do an update. Took the pocket gun to the range this am. The new trigger works like a charm. I fired about 50 rounds (various MFG & Reloads), No FTF, FTE etc. It shoots a bit low left (I need to work on the sites since I had to move them for the trigger upgrade).

    I'm one happy LC9 Owner ! :D
     
  11. trainman

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    Your story sounds just like mine. I am a huge Ruger fan, and I bought both an LCR and an LC9. Both triggers are awful. I have a bigger problem with the 9. I almost traded it in for an XDs. I will keep it and see if I can shoot it better.
    Can you tell me where you got the trigger kit for the gun. I may have to do that in the fall. It will be cheaper than an XDs.
     
  12. anm2_man

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    I bought it from Galloway http://gallowayprecision.com/home.php


    In fact they advertise on this forum.
     
  13. DrFootball

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    I didn't do the Galloway YET,. I had my Ruger Certified Smith clean it up a bit,..It's Much Better then it was out of the Box,..plus mine is Broken in now,..close to 1500 Rds. on it in just over 2 Years,...I think My Pull Is well under 5Lbs now. It was Prob. 8-9Lbs when I got it....The Orig. trigger stock also makes a Left pull or a trigger jerk more noticeable.......


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  14. anm2_man

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    Congrats ! I had the Factory Trigger worked on by a certified Ruger Armorer about a year after I got the gun. Instantly, I had improved groups. Now at 10yds and in my groups are less then 2" and at 12 ft(4 yds ) I can put them anywhere I want( even play tic tac toe on the targets)....
    I did try different recoil springs, and eventually put an exact replacement (#16) Spring back in, even though the orig. Is fine( changed at 1400 rds) I have about 1600 rds. Through mine now (26 months). I'm proud of the fact that I have never had to Draw it yet in the two years and two months I have owned it. It's in a Fobus nightstand mounted holster at night, and daytime resides in one of 4 holsters: Owb- Mitch Rosen dual cant, Iwb DeSantis Insider, and pocket, either the Blackhawk#3 or the DeSantis Nemesis...



    You said this b4 - we want to know which Ruger Certified Smith worked on your LC9 ??????
    :confused:
     
  15. DrFootball

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    A local guy to me. He goes by the nickname "The Greek" in SASS. He does single action work as well. Know him about a year and a half now. Uses his ranch just north of town on the way up to Sedona (Peach springs)just past the oak creek AzFG Fish hatchery. For a SASS match here once a year. If you need his number I'll get it for you and PM it to you,..he's a naturalized Greek American, and he was an Air Force Small Arms Armorer...I know he has at least 3 FFL's...he also did the Trigger on my Wife's SP101 and the Blackhawk that was my Uncles' that she has been shooting as well...
    Amn2: I think he goes to Big Sandy. He has a Thompson under his NFA that I know about,..could have other stuff,..if we come, and I hope we do this time, I'll see if he's coming so we can introduce each other...
    When we went to his SASS match with my friend a HS Asst. Principal and his kids, he introduced us to Gene Pearcy,..
    Edit: we ordered two Galloway's anyway,..one is for an LC380 belonging to an older friend, and the other is for mine,..but I'm in no rush to have it put in, I'm working on other projects. I may have My other Smith at the pawn shop or my guy at the Range shop do,it,..

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  16. anm2_man

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    Sadly I have to report a problem with my LC9. When I first got it, I had a difficult time getting it on paper @ 10'. I really thought because of the long trigger pull, was forcing me to hold the gun down and that was why I had problems getting the gun to shoot on target.

    Well after taking it to the range 2 times, it shoots low by 12" and to the left by 5" with the iron sites @ 10' ? With the iron sites there is no elevation adjustment. Looks like I'm going to have to remove all of the upgrades and replace them with the original Ruger components and return it ot Ruger. :confused: Unless somebody has another Idea ?
     
  17. DrFootball

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    After you replace the up grades with the originals try shooting again. Could you be just pulling it low? At 4 Yards(12 ft) I can put any rounds anywhere on target. Your experienced so I don't think your pulling it low or jerking the trigger...


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  18. anm2_man

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    Well it may not be as bad as I stated. It seems alot of people have had problems with this gun shooting low and left. It just could be a shooter problem. I'll will post when I test it again using the suggestions from the Ruger Forum.
     
  19. LoniJo

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    I was doing the same thing, but I found 2 things I was doing. First, even though the pull is long, I was taking way too long to pull the trigger. I would have a lot of "wobble" and lose my sight on the target. Second, I noticed that I didn't keep my sights lined up properly. I've got almost 500 rounds through mine. I'm faster on the trigger, but still smooth; I just have learned where the trigger fires:). I don't have any trouble hitting the target now. :D
     
  20. trainman

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    Thanks for the observations. I will try this.