K100 Grand Power - kill yourself

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by blackhand, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. blackhand

    blackhand New Member

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    I was an owner of the handgun. I've found only the best recommendations regarding this gun and so I bought it.

    Hard reality

    The firing pin spring was twice destroyed and replaced during 3 months. The fatal failure came with the 1,236th bullet. The barrel was splintered during the last shot and his pieces were shot all round.

    I’ve notified Grand Power management about this event and I was expected at least an apology for the fatal failure. Grand Power answer was shocking: It’s normal; we offer a new handgun or money back.

    Guys, please save your eyes, health,… life.

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111020536688433347051/albums/5922309659166570129

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  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Have never even heard of the brand or model. Where'd you get it?
     

  3. boatme98

    boatme98 New Member

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    Grand Power?

    They didn't tell you which way that power was going to be released, did they?

    Amazing. Glad you weren't hurt.
     
  4. Dearhunter

    Dearhunter Supporting Member Supporter

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    Grand Power is basically a new gun on the market, but, if they claim this is a "norm" they will be out of business very soon.
     
  5. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    It's a shame nobody limits companies with poor

    metals quality, and safety paradigms.

    Anybody can have a baby, and anybody

    can manufacture firearms.

    How much did this pearl cost?
     
  6. blackhand

    blackhand New Member

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    :) Yes, on the other hand I've to say: Thank God!
     
  7. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    I had to look them up:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Power_K100
    On paper they sound quite lovely. Apparently the reality can be somewhat different.
    A bit of a downer because I would love to see the market full of low cost, decent quality firearms.
     
  8. boatme98

    boatme98 New Member

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    Produced in Slovakia, imported by Century Arms.
    List on a 9mm, $430.

    "..uses only the finest materials....blah, blah..."
     
  9. blackhand

    blackhand New Member

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  10. NC1760

    NC1760 New Member

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    Add my voice to the happy you weren't hurt crowd (seriously man!!). Those pics say volumes!!.... Thanks for posting this as a heads up to the rest of the firearm community. The import market has been flooded lately with new companies and models.... and the word of mouth on this type of issue can save a lot of grief (literally).
    As for myself, I will stick to another brand that can be trusted for less... like Ruger... $430 msrp..??? Really ???... You can get a "P" series for a $100 less !!
     
  11. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Happy you are ok. That is some scary **** there. :eek: With XDs coming out of the East (and of course CZ), I am wondering if new companies from other former Soviet countries are trying to get into the market. Obviously, some are not up to par.
     
  12. GrandPower

    GrandPower New Member

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    Email communication between Blackhand and Grandpower

    Here is the communication from other point of view. Blackhand wrote to Grandpower and he got a response from founder of company peronally. Translated from Czech and Slovak languages. Everyone can make its opinion now.

    Grandpower:

    Sept 10th 2013 12:58
    Good day,
    Could you provide some photos, type of ammunition and the way you used the gun? Our philosophy is 100% support to the clients. Doesnt matter what was the reason of failure, we will send you a brand new gun for free. Let your reseller contact Us
    with respect
    JK


    Blackhand:
    Sending photos, shooting at target range with roof, reloaded ammo from reseller of gun. http://www.reloading-solar.cz/
    According to a fatal failure of your product I do not find a new gun satisfactory. In case of sending me a new gun I rather switch to more reliable brand with better customers support. The only way to make me satisfied would be Grand Power X-Calibur and 10 000pcs of ammo.
    With regards
    Pavel Kos

    Grandpower:
    Sept 10th
    Dear Sir,
    Now I understand, why you reseller did sent us any complaint. Reloaded ammo is not reliable as original one. Internet is full of information about accidents caused by reloaded ammunition. This happens to all brands. I am very sorry about your experience, but we cannot take responsibility for something, what's responsibility of ammo manufacturer. Anyway, our offer of K100Mk7 is still actual. If our offer is not good enough for you, please, contact your reseller and ask money back. I wish you good luck and enjoy higher quality handguns from manufacturers with better support.
    with respect
    Jaroslav Kuracina

    Blackhand:
    Thank you, I had enough. Your company is unable to be correct and admit poor quality of barrel. You know very well that reloaded ammo is undersized
    with regards
    Pavel Kos

    Grandpower

    Exactly, the fact of smaller size often leads to obstruct the barrel and such obstruction leads ALWAYS to a destruction of barrel. By the way, raw barrels were manufactured by "golden Czech hands" from CZ UB Uhersky Brod. Your email sound like blackmail.
    with regards
    Jaroslav Kuracina
    CEO
    www.grandpower.eu
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    hmmmmmm....................quite interesting indeed.
     
  14. SmallHands

    SmallHands New Member

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    Glad nothing bad happened to u. Cnt believe he said "your email sounds like blackmail" really??? I hope you get your $ back. Goodluck.
     
  15. orangello

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    Agreed on the "glad nothing bad happened to you"!

    I think the manufacturer got the "blackmail" vibe from the request for 10,000 rounds of ammo in addition to the replacement pistol.

    I will say that I don't like reloads and wouldn't trust them unless I reloaded them or got them from a well-trusted source. It is my understanding that some (if not many) manufacturers will not cover damage if it could have been caused by a bad reload.


    I paid less for my lightly-used CZ-75b. I would recommend you consider a more familiar brand for the replacement, and more familiar ammo.
     
  16. blackhand

    blackhand New Member

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    Hi guys,

    Mr. Kuracina will explain his fairy story regarding reloaded ammo to Proof House for Arms and Ammunition.

    Good Luck ;)
     
  17. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    just looking at the pictures, it looks like a squib load was fired, then possibly a full power load which ruptured the barrel. could be faulty ammo and not a fault of the pistol. i say that because of where th barrel is ruptured at. it's ruptured at the muzzle end and not the chamber.
     
  18. blackhand

    blackhand New Member

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    You are right. It should be possible but not without any barrel plastic deformation :)
     
  19. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    HUH? barrel plastic deformation? please explain.:confused:
     
  20. blackhand

    blackhand New Member

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