Just Some of the Taxes We Pay

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by CA357, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Some of the taxes we pay:

    The inheritance tax.
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge T ax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Sales Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge=2 Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax

    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    Whathappened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

    And I still have to 'press 1' for English!?
     
  2. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    sorry could you write that in spanglish
     

  3. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    We got fat, dumb and complacent. We failed ourselves by not understanding and paying attention to the important stuff. We got distracted by shiny things.

    It was more than just politicians. There are people who hate the idea that the individual is what matters. To them, society itself is the only thing that matters. We call those people "scum-sucking commie pricks", but some people have some harsh names for them, too.

    Yeah, 'til they ban English anyway. Or maybe they'll keep English around and figure out a way to tax us for speaking it.
     
  4. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    No disrespect intended, but that makes you part of the problem.

    The issue isn't whether or not it affects you personally or directly, but whether the action taken by the government affects others unfairly and establishes precedent for future actions that WILL affect you personally and directly.

    Figure out what you believe in, then take a stand for it even if a particular issue doesn't matter to you personally.
     
  5. kygunguy

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    Ain't that the truth. It starts with one thing, next thing you know they add something else, then they go after something else. Next thing you know the government is making more on the transaction than the retailer/manufacturer.
     
  6. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Add to the list:

    COMCAST Cable Television
    Gross Receipts
    COMCAST Internet
    Gross Receipts
    Water Utility
    Water Testing Tax
    Tax
    Sewer
    Tax
    Solid Waste
    Tax
    Gas Company
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Electricity
    Gross Receipts Tax
     
  7. Hey-you-guys

    Hey-you-guys New Member

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    And they wonder why someone finally got mad and tried to blow up the IRS building.
     
  8. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    That's right. One example that hits most people: gasoline. The Federal government makes more in taxes on each gallon of gas sold than the big, evil oil companies make in profit. So when Exxon talks about record profits and a gaggle of congressvermin step up and call foul, remember that the government itself has made MORE IN TAXES than that record profit.

    Yet the government took no risk. They didn't prospect for land, purchase land, establish drills, refineries, storage or distribution methods, and they don't employ the people who do all that work.
     
  9. Jeehs

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    Ammo Tax

    And the government still owes China...... How many BILLIONS of Dollars?
    Sounds like the Government needs a new Budget plan.
     
  10. dunerunner

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    Well, not go away, but get back to what it suposed to do under the Constitution. Then get out of the way!!
     
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  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Not really fair to lump motor vehicle related "taxes" in there and then gripe about these taxes not existing 100 years ago. Hell the car was not even mass produced until 1903 when Ford got started. Motor vehicles were not common conveyances until the 1920's. There were no interstate highways until after WWII.

    It sounds like some of these taxes are specific to Kali and some other people's republics. Move to a less "enlightened" state and escape the madnes (to some degree).
     
  12. orangello

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    I didn't see "Use" tax on your list; if you buy something from out-of-state & the vendor doesn't collect Sales Tax, many, if not most, states request that you remit "Use Tax" at the same rate as your state's Sales Tax.

    The "Inheritance" tax must be a state level tax in Cali; the federal tax system only taxes the Estate, not the amounts received by the heirs.

    When i was with the state, there was an organization pushing for nationalization of sales tax rules and definitions; Cali sales tax definitions were one of the biggest obstacles, IIRC. One of my coworkers at the state left to work for a nationwide service company; he files sales, use, property, and other non-revenue/income taxes for a few dozen of the different states, poor bastard. He certainly had some interesting stories lamenting the differences between states.

    This country's (+states') is utterly screwed, IMO. I have no idea how they could make the tax structure "fair" at this point. I think most of the reason for the multitude of "hidden" or "built in" taxes (like gasoline) is not the theoretical "to target those gaining the most benefit from the services provided by a tax" but more the need to split up a big bill into so many smaller bills that it cannot be accurately tracked. If we only paid one tax, to one entity, it would be such a high rate that compliance would probably have to be audited at nearly 100%.
     
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  13. robocop10mm

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    One of my big problems with taxes is when they tax the tax. Cigarettes and alcohol are two big ones. The government taxes these at the wholesalers level and then charges sales tax on the total price (including the previously assessed tax). You essentially are taxed on the tax. That is wrong.

    There are many other products that are double taxed including tires, guns, ammunition and other sporting goods (Excise taxes). In Texas there is a special tax on arrows.
     
  14. kygunguy

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    Just wait, it is getting better. Now I hear talk they are going to tax soda pops. The madness never ends.

    I like how on TV they go around asking the people that are affected by "service cuts" (public buses, schools and public housing) what they are going to do and how that will negatively affect them. Then all these people complain about how they can't afford 50 cents to ride the bus, 300 dollars for rent. How about they go around and ask Joe public that is already taxed enough how he is going to get by, paying even more for people that get WAY to much help already.

    If people had to cut a check each week to pay Uncle Sam his share of your paycheck, most people would be all for cutting back all programs/entitlements. After all, that IS why they automatically deduct it from our checks.
     
  15. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    If the health care bill gets rammed through, expect a tax on anything people like that can in any way shape or form be labeled "unhealthy" and expect a huge tax to be levied against it. Chips, twinkies, beer, wine, booze, soda, fast food, cigarettes, you name it. Because once the government is responsible for keeping you healthy, they have the legislative power to tax the bejeebus out of you if you do anything they think is unhealthy. (Hint: they don't give a rat's arse about your health, but they're happy to squeeze more money from you at every opportunity.)
     
  16. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    ^^^ Yup, Uncle Nannystate is a beotch.
     
  17. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    My city is talking about adding sales tax to new products. They are making big budget cuts. They are looking at cutting payroll. But they just announced that they have given a $43,000 grant to the "ARTS". Something is wrong with that picture. Our idiot governor just signed a bill to tax internet sales purchases made by Colorado residents from out of state companies. He also wants to add another firearm tax. He decided not to run for re-election. What a surprise!!! They will require sites like midwayusa.com to keep a record of sales to Colorado. They will be required to send a list of our purchases to the state. We will be required to pay the tax ourselves. How would you like the government to have a list of what type of stuff you are buying from midway and cheaper than dirt?

    These taxes are a violation of Colorado state law. TABOR requires any new taxes to be brought before people in a vote.

    What a JOKE!
     
  18. orangello

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    In theory and partial practice, many states with a state sales tax on purchases require their citizens to pay "use tax" on items purchased from out of state from vendors who aren't registered with the purchasor's state to collect sales tax for the purchasor's state. This isn't new. In MS, it is not something that is audited except as a small part of a sales tax audit; sales tax audits are limited to businesses (sometimes individuals associated with a business being audited will be examined). This only attempts to level the playing field between brick-n-mortar stores and catalog or internet sellers. I don't have a problem with requiring the catalog/internet salespeople to play fairly.

    One thing, since they aren't physically located inside your state, i doubt your state will be able to have much impact on businesses that are not registered with your state. IOW, Colorado will have a hard time requiring lists of your purchases from a vendor located in another state with no physical presence in Colorado.

    New Federal requirements are coming in the area of online sales, primarily for the sellers (new 1099K). http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=215740,00.html
     
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  19. Hey-you-guys

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    I hate the politics behind toll roads and red light cameras. I got pinched by a red light camera and had to send the fine to Arizona; why the hell do they get the money? The damn camera is in Texas!!
    And then there is the whole toll road scam. Beltway 8 here in Houston was built over 20 years ago, so not only do our taxes pay for it to be built, they also charge a toll on it... a toll that was supposed to be removed ten years after it was built! Not only has the toll gone up rapidly, it is privately owned by some company in Italy. And on top of that, when people wanted to drive on the feeder so they wouldn't have to pay tolls, they put a traffic signal at every single frickin' intersection, which has caused ridiculous amount of traffic at all hours of the day, so if people want to get out of a traffic jam, they have to pay the toll, literally.
    Also, those bridges that collapsed in those other states a few years ago; did the people of those cities get their money back? No, they kept the same city counselors in office who were at fault for the bridges collapsing and killing, injuring, and destroying property. It was the city's fault because they didn't do their inspections. It's kind of like someone fixing your car; if they put a bad radiator in your car and 2 miles down the road it overheated, would you pay that same mechanic again to put a new radiator in your car? **** no!
     
  20. bkt

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    Similarly, the Thruway in New York was supposed to be a toll road only until the cost of building it was covered. That went by decades ago, and tolls continue to go up on that road.

    Have you ever known government to willingly part with a source of revenue?

    Side note: there's an article today telling how the CDC used shopping card information to track salmonella poisoning. They were able to track the source to some place in Rhode Island. But that's not the point. The point is that your Costco, BJ's or other discount cards you use are a means that can be exploited for interested parties to determine what you're buying. So think about that in relation to the health care bill and your personal taxes the next time you swipe your card while buying chips and beer.