Just put a pair of Troys on my DDM4V5 and a One point Blackhawk Sling. Still experimenting around with the one point sling. In the army I always carried a 2 point. I might wind up installing a 2 point since thats what I am used to from back in the day, we'll see. Here the sights are shown flat and flipped up in different pics. They are as yet unzeroed but they cowitness pretty closely. Also I took care to mount them for the largest sight radius possible. If the Eotech ever runs out of juice I can see my sights through it. It was a tough call whether to make the DDM4V5 my SHTF rifle or another one. In the end I went with this one since I got it brand new.