Just looking for info about a couple of old rifles.

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Push540

Discussion Starter · Aug 7, 2007

Hi there, I was searching the net for some info about two rifles we found in my grand fathers basement. I'm wondering the history and the value to determine if I should have insurance on them and just some common knowledge about the rifles.

If I posted the numbers that are stamped on the rifles or posted pictures of them, could anyone give me a ball park on how old they are, where they camer from and the estimated value?

One is a Lakefield .22 caliber and the other has "US Property" stamped on it, is a 303 and has a tiny coat of arms stamped on it.

Would I be able to post pictures of them to gather info or is that not allowed?

Thanks.

Neil

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Push540

Discussion Starter · #21 · Aug 12, 2007

Wow, thanks for all of the info guys.

I'm not looking to sell them, I was just curious of the price and if I should put them under the house insurance.

What kind of ammo would each gun use and where would I buy it and roughly how much would a box of ammo cost?

Again, mostly curious but my uncle would like to teach me how to shoot using these guns but I'm afraid they're too old. The haven't been fired or cleaned for at least 10 years. If they weren't cleaned after last used, couldn't gun powder ruin the barrel? I'm sure it's highly corrosive.

Thanks again for all the info and help so far gents.

Neil

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Push540

Discussion Starter · #22 · Aug 12, 2007

Oh one other thing. What's the difference between a 303 a 30 30 and a 30 odd 6?

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Push540

Discussion Starter · #23 · Aug 12, 2007

ScottG said:
That band around the stock is standard for the rifle, it's not a repair. I assume you thought the band indicates a stock repair.

Thanks.

Is it one chunk of metal or is it a band wrapped around the stock?

Also why is the metal even there?

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ScottG

· #24 · Aug 13, 2007

Neil,

The Enfield's are somewhat plentiful right now, but they'll disappear anyway, no reason not to insure it.

That Lakefield is a .22 so you can get ammo for that anywhere. $9/550 rounds at WalMart.

The standard Enfield takes .303 British. But make sure it hasn't been rechambered to something else. It's already been sporterized, the sporter might have rechambered it. You can find .303 Brit at Bass Pro around $17/20 rounds.

Go to the nearest gunshow, you should easily find some.

I don't know much about the Lakefields, but a .22 is low powered, so if you clean it up and there's not any damage it should be fine to shoot.

The Enfield should clean up as well, corrosive ammo will eventually damage the barrel if it was left uncleaned after the last shooting. You may have some pitting inside. Expect to clean it quite a few times before it looks good.

This picture (from Kim DuToit's site) gives you an idea of the sizes of the rounds. The one on the left is a .22. The 30-06 and the 303 are military rounds. 30-06 = 30 caliber round adopted in 1906. .303 British is a 30 caliber round but the measurement is just over 30 hence, 303.

The 30-30 is a civilian round, mainly a levergun cartridge. They generally have round noses while the military round is pointed. (spitzer) Its range is good for around 150 yards while the Brit and the Thirty aught has considerably more range, around 600 yards.

As for why the Brits put that band around, who knows? It wraps around, it doesn't join the buttstock to the rest of the rifle, meaning it's not a chunk of metal joining the gun together.

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1984cj

· #25 · Aug 13, 2007

The only thing I can add to this is that Lakefield Arms was a canadian company that was bought out by Savage Arms and is now Savage Arms Canada.
Welcome to the site.

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Push540

Discussion Starter · #26 · Aug 14, 2007

ScottG said:
Neil,

The Enfield's are somewhat plentiful right now, but they'll disappear anyway, no reason not to insure it.

That Lakefield is a .22 so you can get ammo for that anywhere. $9/550 rounds at WalMart.

The standard Enfield takes .303 British. But make sure it hasn't been rechambered to something else. It's already been sporterized, the sporter might have rechambered it. You can find .303 Brit at Bass Pro around $17/20 rounds.

Go to the nearest gunshow, you should easily find some.

I don't know much about the Lakefields, but a .22 is low powered, so if you clean it up and there's not any damage it should be fine to shoot.

The Enfield should clean up as well, corrosive ammo will eventually damage the barrel if it was left uncleaned after the last shooting. You may have some pitting inside. Expect to clean it quite a few times before it looks good.

This picture (from Kim DuToit's site) gives you an idea of the sizes of the rounds. The one on the left is a .22. The 30-06 and the 303 are military rounds. 30-06 = 30 caliber round adopted in 1906. .303 British is a 30 caliber round but the measurement is just over 30 hence, 303.

The 30-30 is a civilian round, mainly a levergun cartridge. They generally have round noses while the military round is pointed. (spitzer) Its range is good for around 150 yards while the Brit and the Thirty aught has considerably more range, around 600 yards.

As for why the Brits put that band around, who knows? It wraps around, it doesn't join the buttstock to the rest of the rifle, meaning it's not a chunk of metal joining the gun together.

Wow, thanks for all the info. I assume if the gun is clean and straight, only the ammo is needed, these Enfields don't take gun powder or any other instrument. {It is missing the cleaning gear that was kept inside the gun}

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ScottG

· #27 · Aug 15, 2007

Nope. The cartridges are self contained. Cleaning kits are a dime a dozen at WalMart and other stores that carry sporting goods. I like to use a bore snake.

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