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Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by tCan, Feb 24, 2012.
2 moa? 3 moa?
My M1A1 is a 1 to sub 1 MOA rifle.....my M1 Garand (IH make) is a 1 to 3 depending on ammo...and how much coffee I had before going to the range
Some M1 Garands were used as sniper rifles. They are very accurate, and can reach out pretty far.
Here's my M1-A, as built by by Accuracy Speaks, (Derrick Martin).
Holy Cow! How do I buy one of those? And how many arms and legs do I need?
Give Accuracy Speaks a call, although last I heard they were not taking orders from civilians.
Just give them some time to catch up, then get on their list.
You lucky SOB!!.. .. You have a IHC M1??!! Ive been hunting for one for ages!!
And is that a IHC pickup I see in your avatar???
Here is SA Super Match M1A. They promise sub-MOA out of it. It will set you back probably around $3,000
I know that my NM M1A is capable of greater accuracy than what I can produce with my present shooting skills. I think it will continue to accommodate me well in my quest for better shooting.
Ok. Now how about the same rifles as you might find for $1000-$1200. It's a lot of dough to be dropping on what is, in all practicality, a hunting rifle that you wont even put a scope on.
Sure you can.
I have several M14 rifles that will do sub MOA for 5 shot groups. And I have a few more that are good for about 2 MOA.
I think this was from my Smith Enterprise M14 with open sights at 100.
And this was with my LRB M25 at 100.
I would never run a scope on my M14. Because then it would be an M21 wannabe.
Does Springfield make a good M14? And whats up with the magazine looking tube under the barrel?
That is an M1 Garand.
And just because it is scoped, that does not make an M14 and "M21 wannabe". It makes it a scoped M14.
I just couldn't bring myself to do it man. Battle rifles with scopes just dont appeal to me.
the M14 is the select fire version with full auto capability, not made by Springfield anymore that i am aware of. the M1A is the semi auto version available to us mere civilians. if i remember correctly, the M14's still used by the military are just what has been in stock for many years and are just being upgraded and put back into service.
Does an M1a kick the shell casing to the right?
the M1A and M1A1 both kick the shells to the right. for $1000 to 1300, you can get a nice M1 loaded that is about as good an all around rifle as you could find. no scope needed really (unless the eyeballs are not the best)
There are many documented cases of long range shots with the M1 Garand with iron sights. It depends on what you prefer. Up until my eyesight started to fail I used iron sights on all my rifles but for one, a Ruger 10/22. I still do not have any optics on any of my handguns.
The M1 was not intended to be scoped, at least as I understand.
"M14" as a generic name, is used to describe any of the M14 variants available on the market today. When Elmer Balance started Springfield Armory he tried to call his new semi auto rifle the "M14", but the government would not allow that (yet), so he called it the M1A which the SAI trademarked name for THEIR M14 variant. So, SAI has the M1A.
Since then, other companies have come along and marketed their versions, and called them "M14s" with no problems.
Federal Ordnance, Armscorp, Smith Enterprise, LRB Arms, 7.62mmFirearms, and a few others have all called their rifles "M14s".