Just got pulled over!!!!

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by alwaysarmed, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. alwaysarmed

    alwaysarmed New Member

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    So I got pulled over for rolling a stop sign. When officer got to my window I had both hands on the wheel. I let him speak first I then informed him I had a firearm and a permit. He ask where it was told him right hip. He asked for license and permit after informing him my wallet was in left rear pocket. so I gave it to him. Now my question is if anyone can post a link to they indiana code stating whether or not I have to inform an officer I am carrying because I have not been able to find anything on the subject. Therefor I told him just to be on the safe side.
     
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  2. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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  3. alwaysarmed

    alwaysarmed New Member

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    So according to the usa carry page I do not have to tell them but its recommend and he didn't not have the the right to ask for my permit, although I will always comply with there wishes just because that could very well help avoid a ticket. Just so you know I got away with noting just a verbal warning not pice of paper or fine to pay.
     
  4. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    I've always thought it good idea to tell them weather it was the law or not. It's just another reason for thme to engage in some dickery if they are not too keen on the unwashed masses having a gun. I mean, you end up in court for what ever comes out of that situation toy have the fact that you informed the officer in a respectful manner that you where armed so as not to create an overly stressful situation.

    If state law allows then there is no reason to do so and I would support that. It is your right after all. I just don't handle it that way and it has always worked out for me. More often than not it will come back that you have a permit if they call your plate anyway. And if you're getting a ticket they are going to run the plate.

    I have no problem with police doing their job and I understand it can be very stressful. For the most part I will do what I can to be respectful and keep everything as calm as I can. If they choose to get into a little dumbassery after that then it's on them. I do believe that they should recieve a degree of respect for the badge at least until they show they are not worthy of such.

    Like I've said a lot on here. I have and still do carry open when I choose to. A lot of cops have been called on me over the years. Now a lot of these men and women know me to a degree and we usually end up talking guns after they see they got called away form dinner or something on a asshat call. That's not their fault and I am still the man reported with a gun. I've made a lot of cop friends due to those calls though. Being nice is a good thing as long as you are allowed to do so.:)
     
  5. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I was pulled over for doing 52 in a 35. I was doing it. He caught me. I handed him my permit with my license. We talked for a few minutes. He let me go with a warning. Never hurts to be polite!
     
  6. alwaysarmed

    alwaysarmed New Member

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    Thanks a lot for the help drum and I agree and disagree with you on always telling them. I agree because its respectful but I disagree because I could also lead to having cop with little experience unholstering his weapon all because I just said the word GUN and him or her feeling threatened.
     
  7. alwaysarmed

    alwaysarmed New Member

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    Your right Rick it doesn't hurt. Like I said above i was polite and so was he, he returned my license and permit and said to take easy at the stop sign and walked away. Now that could have been because that was the first time or because I was polite and informed him I was carrying. I respect him and every other officer for what they do and the risk they take
     
  8. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    Well like I said. If it's within the law and your rights in your state then you are not doing anything wrong. And I'll support anyone that is exorcising their rights.
    Sure there are some cops out there that might get bent but I've done my part to be respectful and nice to them so anything they do out of line is not on me. I guess they can shoot me but I don't see it happening.

    On the same coin I am one that believes in the right to remain silent so if they get me in a car they will have trouble talking to me. But see at this point they are breaking out on a bad case of what DJ calls dumbassery. Something I do not tolerate too well. I can goto court and have lawyers that will represent me for next to of not nothing. I don't go around breaking laws as a habit and I don't give the law people any problems. I expect the same in return.
     
  9. cblowe13

    cblowe13 New Member

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    Even if its not a law the best way to get respect and get out of a ticket is to tell them otherwise you'll get a gun shoved in your damn mouth if its seen
     
  10. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Always,my state has a duty to notify, but I find it prudent even is states with reciprocity that dont require it. I have found that they appreciate the courtesy. I always find it prudent to let the officer know by saying, "I have a CCW permit and I'm currently armed. My wallet is behind my firearm." Even the young cop who was in training did not freak out at this line! He simply told me not to have any contact with the weapon. This was also on a speeding ticket stop. One officer's response was, "Are you planning to shoot me with it?" to which I responded, "Of course not." Everything went smoothly. I have had them take my weapon before, so after the encounter was over I asked this cop why he let me keep my weapon (I was new to carry back then). He replied, "If you planned to shoot me, you wouldn't have told me about it."

    Some are very good natured about it. :)
     
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  11. deadsp0t

    deadsp0t New Member

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    Law or no law it's best for your safety and avoiding hassle.. giving your permit or informing lets the LEO know in advance you are or could be carrying and are likely not a threat. Not doing so could lead to you being drawn upon by that inexperienced officer and accidentally shot over nothing.

    Here in NC if you don't have a concealed permit the handgun needs to be in plain sight, which isn't always plain to see.. Several years ago, myself and three friends went through a check point, two pistols on the center console, the second time the officer approached the truck 4 deputies drew on us and shouted different orders.. Don't move.. Put the truck in park.. Hands on the wheel.. My reply was please tell me what you want, I don't wanna be a statistic..
    A serious hassle for absolutely no reason except me not saying, hey we have guns, look..

    I see your point but after that exp, I'm not risking my life over nothing..
    Your gun, life and permit.. Just sharing my exp
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  12. nixfix

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    I am not aware of any PD that sends inexperienced officers on single patrol. And if they did, I think telling the officer about being armed in a calm voice, rather than risking him seeing it or him running the plate and finding out I have a permit but I haven't told him about being armed, is preferable.
     
  13. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Got pulled over in Florida... complied ... never thought of informing officer perhaps due to the fact I'm not mindful of carrying most times ... given a warning ... then strangely enough small talk ensues usually by officer about unrelated things. (Must be the gray in my hair). :D
     
  14. johnr1943

    johnr1943 New Member

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    Never forget who makes the recommendation! :D
     
  15. SigArmored

    SigArmored New Member

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    In Fla. we have "No duty to inform" and someone here suggested that an officer could pull up weather or not you have a carry license just by checking you're plate and that's a definite no in Fla. as well .Fact being that the department of ag divis out our permits and has no connection to the DMV .Every state is different and the link that was posted for the op has a link for all states that you can down load.I have them downloaded for everything between Fla. and Va. As these are the states I travel in frequently.
     
  16. fmj

    fmj New Member

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    You have 0 duty to announce you are carrying by law. I NEVER tell them unless asked. When they run your DL they will see you have an IN LTCH.


    Funny story, i got pulled for a nonexistent traffic violation...(the one screaming at the cop to chase me was the one that actually committed the violation) Young pup comes to my window full of wind and $hit. (Pompous prick) I 'splained the FACTS of what happened and that i was well within the law. He took my DL and registration and went back and ran my name...when he came back with my DL and reg. he had a TOTALLY different demeanor...almost apologetic and let me go on my merry way.

    Wife, who was sitting beside me in the truck, noticed the complete reversal of attitude and commented on it. I told her, "the truck plate is registered in YOUR name, you dont have your LTCH. (yet) When he he ran my DL he saw that i DID have my LTCH and that i was most likely armed and understood (after our conversation) i had a pretty firm grasp on legalities...I think he may have learned a valuable lesson today." :D

    Long and the short, if your vehicle is registered in your name they WILL know you have your LTCH by the time they come to your window.

    I NEVER disclose because you dont know if your dealing with a real cop or not..its VERY simple to impersonate an LEO...we even had a case in this area not so long ago of a guy pulling women over and raping them. Had a car that looked like a cruiser and a uniform.
     
  17. alwaysarmed

    alwaysarmed New Member

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    Thanks for all the help, post and experience I trust that this wisdom will help me make it through next stop I pray it doesn't happen no more.
     
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  18. kalboy26

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    I got pulled over tonight for speeding, and when the officer asked for my license I gave him both my ccw and regular. He just looked at my ccw, said thanks, and gave it back. He was very professional and it wasn't a big deal at all. I figure its best just to put it out there, and they will respect you for it.( I guess if we had problems around here of impersonators I might think twice though)
     
  19. Doc3402

    Doc3402 New Member

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    I would say you handled things very well. As far as him having a right to ask for the permit, he was more or less obligated to once you told him you were armed. You may not have to volunteer the info, but it's hard to argue with the outcome of your meeting.

    A word to the wise. Do NOT believe everything you read on USACarry. They do a fine job, but they only provide a synopsis of your statutes. You need to know your local laws inside and out.
     
  20. deadsp0t

    deadsp0t New Member

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    We've had one or two over the past 8-10 years, they've all been unmarked though. Think LE put out a number you can call and you can also call 911. Think they also said to stop in a populated area, of course this was when the 'blue light bandit' was in the prowl