Just got an 870 free now need help

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Dahamp2003, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    Because I know nothing about new shotguns haha. Long story short, I took my whinchester semi auto to the gunsmith to get fixed because the mag spring was broken and it wouldnt come apart. Well, he broke the plastic mag release button on it and they couldn't fix it because it was stamped or something so they gave me a brand new in box Remington 870 Express. Well, this may be a dumb question, but whats the break in period and when I look down the bore its not smooth like my old one. Like it looks the same type finish as the outside. Does it smooth out the more you shoot it? I would imagine it just blasts it smooth more and more. Just wondering. Any pointers? Oiling? I know its the most popular shotgun on earth so yall should have someone here that knows. Thanks in advance and of course Im happy happy happy
     
  2. mountainman13

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    You went from a Winchester to a Remington?
    What model Winchester.?
    Who is your gunsmith?

    I wouldn't worry about the finish on the 870. If you're going to keep it just take it to the range and try to shoot it. See If it is going to function properly before worrying about breaking it in.
     

  3. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    The inside of the barrel should be polished smooth. It may have some heavy oil for long term storage in it. You can get a bore mop or a bore snake that you can run through the barrel to remove that oil a d any of the dust it attracted while in storage. That should be done before you fire it. The exterior of the Remington Express guns is rough, because they bead blast the metal to give it a dull finish for less reflection when hunting.

    I'm curios as well what model and year your Winchester may have been. There is a possibility that if it was in good cosmetic condition that it could be worth more than the Remington and it may be as simple as finding a used or NOS part from a place like Numrich. He did give you your broken Winchester back to you right?
     
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  4. Dahamp2003

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    Yeah he gave it back. Im pretty sure its a Ranger 140. Its around 200-300 online where Ive seen it. The pricetag on the 870 was 429 $. (I know thats marked up) He said it wasnt fixable. If it is, please let me know and Ill fix it.
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    try Numrich Gun Parts. here is a link and the schematic for your shotgun. and also find a better gunsmith.

    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Winchester-33573/Shotguns-42603/140-41799.htm
     
  6. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    How the hell did he brake the release?
    Are you in Massachusetts?
     
  7. FrontierTCB

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    Give the Rem. a good cleaning before you shoot it and the barrel should be fine. I'm glad to know he gave you the broken Win. back, I to thought there was something shady going down. Not much that could be broken on one that couldn't be fixed.
     
  8. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    The Express probably just needs a good cleaning. Kudos to your gunsmith. I am betting he did not give away a gun if the other one was fixable.
     
  9. FrontierTCB

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    If the Win. is only 2-3 hundred $ it might not be worth paying a smith to fix. But if you can get the parts for say $20 and fix it yourself its a pretty sweet deal.
     
  10. Triumphman

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    Congrats on the new Shotty. Too bad about the Winny. Hope you can fix.

    Anyway, swab out the barrel, and give other parts a coat of Oil, Rack Gun a half dozen times, wipe off excessive Oil, and shoot a couple Shots, swab out, give parts another coat of Oil/wipe down, Rack Gun 1/2 dozen times to help smooth things out, go and shoot 3 or 4 more shots, reswab, reoil, rack gun some more, wipe off, then go out and blast away.
    One thing about the new 870. They don't like Short Stroking. They'll jam up every time. Be firm on your Pumps. After awhile, it'll be 2nd nature as to how the Express likes it. They are rough on the inside, but they do smooth out.
    Del
     
  11. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    Thanks guys. Im not big into shotguns, except for skeet and home defense, but Im happy with the 870 so far. Ran a bore snake through it today and it was black grease in the barrel. Shes clean as a whistle now. Thanks for the input. Im pribably not going to tac it out or anything, but I would like to upgrade the sights and get a side saddle shell holder on it. Any recommendations?
     
  12. Dahamp2003

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    New question guys. Got to thinking about it, and since they said it cant be fixed, could I take out the barrel, firecontrol group, stock, etc and just buy a used reciever from a different model if I cant find a ranger 140 reciever only somewhere? Isnt the 1400 just like it but newer? Im thinking there has to be a way to fix it
     
  13. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Id like to see pics of exactly what is broken. It would help us to answer your questions.
     
  14. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    This broke off flush with the receiver. I used a different picture online because im at work on my phone. Luckily ive got a Note 2 haha. Any idea?
     

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  15. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    No one knows of a different model receiver that I could buy and throw on this?
     
  16. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    Haha, you trying to find the gunsmith so you can yourself a nice new 870? :p
     
  17. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    Hahaha I wondered the same thing.
     
  18. Virginian

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    The receiver, according to the government, is the gun. Sales will have to go thru an FFL thru the mail across state lines, etc. That is not an uncommon breakage on Winchester 1400/140 shotguns. If you really want to try to salvage it, I think you need to try to find another 1400/140 with a different problem to buy fairly cheap. Good luck.
     
  19. Dahamp2003

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    I know that. I dont mind finding a receiver and paying 50-75 bucks for it and another 25 for the FFL. Thats still a working semi auto winchester for 100 $ or less. Or the same gun I had with a different serial and a 100 $ brand new 870. Either way you look at it I would be better off. Didnt think about a broken one in another spot though, thats a great idea. I was just thinking of the receiver. My other question is can I buy a different model thats broken for the parts to fix mine? What models are the same/would work? I know a 1400 and 140 are very similar. Just wondering
     
  20. FrontierTCB

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    I've never dealt with Winchester's customer service dept. but was just wondering if you have called them. I know a lot of companies Ruger, Glock, even Hi Point have a reputation for either fixing or replacing firearms with defective parts.

    If this is a known issue it may be worth a shot to give them a call.