Jungle carbine

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Nfernaays, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. Nfernaays

    Nfernaays New Member

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    Im getting my enfield no 5 jungle carbine to working order but am having difficulty with the small spring loaded retaining "pin" or "stopper" that stops the bolt from going back...if i'm super gentle w it the bolt will move back forward if the bolt is racked it will catch...not sure what problem is...stopper does come off rifle when pulled up...not sure what to do replace other problem? Any suggestions wld be great
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Can you post some pics? I'm not sure what you're talking about.
     

  3. TheOldMan

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    Yes.. Pictures please. I think I know what you're talking about but pictures will help us give ideas on what might be happening.. If it's parts that you need, try searching at Numrich's

    http://www.gunpartscorp.com/
     
  4. Nfernaays

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    Yes ill put some up later today i have looked at numrich but i think it will be helpful to know what part to replace ill get those pics up soon guys thanks
     
  5. Nfernaays

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    First pic shows pin in second with it removed
     
  6. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Can you get the bolt in and out?
     
  7. Nfernaays

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    Yes it can pull totally out by rotating the bolt head once past a point problem is when you pull it back it catches that pin thing and wont go back forward without depressing pin
     
  8. mountainman13

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    Do you have to depress that piece to put the bolt back in or can you just rotate the bolt head down into position?
     
  9. Nfernaays

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    When i pull ot back it catches then i dont need to depress it at all it just rotates...the pin doesnt stop bolt as should
     
  10. mountainman13

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    You'll likely have to pull the entire thing out of the stock so you can see what's broke there. You should have to depress that to get the bolt head back into position. That's definitely your problem. I'm just not entirely sure how it works.
    Is the spring still in there? It might be missing a detent. I'm not sure. Sorry.
     
  11. Nfernaays

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    The spring is still in there i can see it when i pull the pin out...any idea if this part is on all enfields?...the no 5 seems to be difficult to get parts for maybe can swap w one from a 3 or 4??
     
  12. Nfernaays

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    Thanks for your help i figured that pin shouldn't be able to come out ill strip it down and take a look
     
  13. mountainman13

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    Yes it is. Not sure if they are exactly the same. If you call numrich and tell them what you're looking for they may be able to tell you.
     
  14. TheOldMan

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    Agreed.. The pin's there to prevent the bolt from coming out during normal operation. It appears to me that the spring is week and no longer keeps the stop pin up as it should. Sorry this is no more help than what you have gotten so far and I am still researching.. So far it looks like the part is peculiar to your Mk5.
     
  15. c3shooter

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    The REAL #5s were made by converting No 4 rifles, so most parts from a No. 4 will interchange. There are some lookalike #5s that were made in later years by chopping up a Mk 3.
     
  16. Nfernaays

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    Everything ive read on this gun shows it to be authentic no 5. Made in 46. It was given to me by my uncle was my grandfathers he was issued it as part of the civil defense program he headed in small town he lived in. Very neat gun id like to get it shootable. Looked at a mk4 schematic didnt seem that that part was on it. Numrich didnt seem to have replacement either.
     
  17. TheOldMan

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    Correct... I've got a #4 down in the shop torn down right now and it's got the same assy that's in your #5.. Unfortunately it's still all torn down.. Look for a #4 takedown guide on youtube.. You should be able to get something to show you how it's put together or check Numrichs for a #4 schematic..
     
  18. TheOldMan

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    Got some pics that I hope will clear up your issues..
     

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  19. TheOldMan

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    What you see first is a three part assy of the bolt retaining pin/plunger that goes in a slot from the "bottom" of the reciever and up "not" from the top down (which I think may be your problem). Then the spring goes inside the slot and the retainer block attaches via threads from a screw that's also holding the mag release in place which keeps upward spring tension on the plunger. To remove the bolt you must push the plunger down then pull the bolt back and release the plunger which will push up under the front of the bolt releasing it thus allowing you to push up on the bolt head for removal. To reinstall the bolt , insert it and with the front of the bolt slightly forward, push down on the plunger then push the bolt forward. If you have the three parts installed correctly, you should have no issues moving the bolt back and forth .. Hope this helped.. Note: In order for you to remove this assy, you HAVE to remove the action from the stock.
     
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