Judging the Judge

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by txpossum, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Let me start out by admitting I do not own a Taurus Judge. However, a couple of my friends own them, and I've handled and shot (both .45 and .410 loads) it. After doing so, my question is: what's the big attraction to this gun?

    It's heavy. I don't mind heavy guns, but this one feels heavy and akward, I don't like the balance. Shooting .45's, I did not find it particulary accurate at 25 yards. Shooting shotshells was kinda fun --okay, I'll give it that -- but other than being a hell of a snake gun at five yards, I'm not sure what I'd use it for. And mebbe three .00 pellets per .410 would discourage unwelcome visitors at night, but I don't see it being accurate further than the bedroom door.

    If somebody gave me one, I'd take it . . . but there's just so many more guns out there that I would buy before a Judge that it'd never get to the top of my list.

    So, I'm curious . . . all you Judge owners, what made you decide to buy it? Make me see it.
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i dont see the purpose or appeal either. the 410 is a pretty anemic shotshell barely adequate for squirrels or rabbit much less as a self defense round. to make it semi accurate they have to reduce its ability to fire the potent 45colt.

    my opinion just get a good real 45colt revolver and have done with it. shooting 410 out of a handgun is pretty pointless for anything but shts and giggles
     

  3. G-man111

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  4. FrontierTCB

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    I agree. I think it's more of a novelty than anything. BUT they've made a lot of $$$ of them.
     
  5. deadsp0t

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    Agreed, I think it's more of a 'hey, check this out' kinda thing..

    I will add I've been out beside the river cat fishing and it could have come in handy for snakes.
     
  6. Mongo

    Mongo Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I would like to see it compared to the "Governor". I'm sure the S&W quality is much better than Taurus. I wonder if the S&W feels "heavy and awkward" as the Taurus was described by txpossum?
     
  7. towboater

    towboater Well-Known Member

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    I bought one. Kept it about a month. Then sold it for a small profit. Its one I don't regret selling.
     
  8. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    I've never handled one of those -- like to compare 'em, though.
     
  9. CrazedJava

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    The Judge seems more like a novelty than anything. I'm interested but I'm not spending that much money for novelty.

    I did see one at the range and it was an interesting sight. The RO had to shut the guy down because he was shooting buckshot, but they were happy to let him purchase some overpriced slugs to practice with instead.

    Seemed rather ridiculous, but it has a certain intimidation factor in an awkward snubbie kind of way. If I were to go .45 LC I can think of a lot of other guns I'd rather own that still give me the full 6 shots and I have no use for .410 out of a handgun.
     
  10. FrontierTCB

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    Agreed. Would make a great snake gun. My fishing gun now is a Ruger LCR22, light easy to carry. That .410 would put a hurting on a Copperhead though!
     
  11. warhammer

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    Bought the wife judge "public defender" poly, loaded with 410 PDX. It is perfect for her, she dont shoot all that much, You don't want to carjacking her.
     
  12. AIKIJUTSU

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    A good ol' Ruger Redhawk, Blackhawk, or Vaquero in .45 Colt can also handle .410 shotshells made specifically for them, and is much more accurate with .45 Colt ammo...
    Also an old S&W model 25-5 if you can find one.
     
  13. FrontierTCB

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    Good point.
     
  14. 1911love

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    My dad has one. I like it for it's intended use IMO, snakes. Paired with a Serpa, it's great for yard work and other outdoor tasks. It's pretty handy on a mower/tractor. It's heavy and large, buts it's not meant for CC. At night my father keeps it on the nightstand. Perfect for bedroom defense. First two chambers-#4 birdshot, second two chambers-PDX, last chamber is a Winchester silver tip .45Colt HP.
     
  15. phildenton

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    from a pistol barrel the 410 is worthless, except for rabbits, squirrels, snakes, etc at close range. 45lc is good for dear, bad guys, etc. it is the versatility that is the only real attraction, as a back-woods survival gun, or a ranch gun in snake territory.

    now a 410 slug from a typical long gun barrel, has the power equivalant [on paper] of something like a 41 mag, and has next to zero recoil, and so might be viable for an elder, recoil sensitive, without access to something better [power/money] in several jurisdictions, 410 with slugs is legal for deer, particularly in states where hunting with rifles is prohibited.

    now here is my question for the experts here [such as c3 or johnm], why are 410 slugs loaded to a lighter weight projectile [1/4-1/5 oz] versus game loads with smaller shot size loaded to higher payload weight
    [1/2 oz+]?

    i know that the slugs go about 1800 fps, and the birdshot 1200-1300 fps. is it possible to load a 1/2 oz solid lead projectile, in the same sort of wad [so a sabot slug] going 1200 fps? if not, then why not?

    sorry for going slightly ot.
     
  16. Jones25

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    The judge is a gun for people who can't hold a pistol still enough to line the sights up and pull the trigger. It's also the multi caliber option that alot of people like. The new governor from s&w is the new and improved judge. It's a light smooth shooting and accurate pistol that shoots the 45acp along with the 45colt and 410. It's one of the very few tri caliber guns. Ammo is getting harder to find in some calibers and the option to shoot one of three is better than having one of one.
     
  17. 1911love

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    Jones: The .45 ACP needs moon clips to shoot out of a revolver bc the .45ACP is rimless. My father can hold the sights true, but a five foot rattler is difficult from a center fire handgun at almost any distance.

    The Judge basically to me is a purpose built short and handy snake gun. It's a lot easier to carry on a mower/tractor than a long gun and it does double duty as a great master bedroom defense gun. You better believe if my dad exits his master bedroom it'll be with a 590A1 or a USP .45ACP.

    It fills a small "purpose use" and does it well. Would it be my only handgun if I was restricted to one, no. Does it do a fantastic job at it's intended use, yes. IMO, it's intended use is a close quarters snake gun. As Orangello says about bears, the only good viper is a dead viper.
     
  18. AR10

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    It is a collector's gun for some. Not saying it is extra high quality, but for a wide range gun collection, like some of us have, from ultra expensive to kick around stuff, this would make a nice addition.

    I don't have one, yet, but when the right used one presents itself, I will.
     
  19. Jones25

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    Your right I forgot to mention the moon clips. Still the ability to shoot three different calibers is rare. the addition of it having low selling constant and common production is a major benefit I will take advantage of even if its only a 410 or 45 colt round.
     
  20. whoopbass

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    The newest public defender is a great multipurpose gun. Lighter than many 1911s and smaller, it is a little bulky but can still be carried concealed.
    Federal Premium makes a 410 specifically for the judge, four 000buck (36cal.) @850fpc which will consistency group at 3 1/2" at 7 to 10 yd.
    Five rounds of this are like 20 rounds from a 380 and will totally destroy a paper target at 10 yards. I carry 3 rounds of the federal backed up with 2rounds of 250 gr. LC
    I don't trust the PDX on the street, the BBs tend to scatter and you don't want to chance hitting innocents.