Joined the Glock family today...

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by Quentin, May 7, 2011.

  1. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    This weekend Cabelas has a sale on law enforcement trade in Glock 22s for $359.99 with two 15rd mags and a hard case. I looked at two last night (which were Gen 2s) and put a hold on one to pick up today. Internally they looked very good but do have holster wear on the slide. Of course the one with the best internals and barrel had a lot more outside wear but of course I chose it.

    Anybody bought a Glock LE trade in? Any comments, any problems I should look for? I was impressed how little wear the mating surfaces had, slide/barrel/frame. The bore looks excellent. I kinda doubt that this has much more than a thousand rounds through it. The other one definitely had a lot more wear and the front half of the barrel was polished shiny by the slide.

    I'm curious why these pistols are traded in in the first place if they work properly. Maybe the officer wanted a Gen 3 for the dust cover rail which the Gen 2 doesn't have. Or maybe lots of officers are moving to the new Gen 4s? Or they want a more compact pistol? Also the night sights are pretty faded.

    Anyway, this seems like a fair price and I've been wanting to buy a full size Glock. Also have been wanting to try out the 40 S&W. I've long had 45ACP and 9mm pistols and the 40 S&W seems like a great compromise even though I've heard the S&W stands for Short&Weak. I think this will be a fine pistol.

    Haven't taken a picture but it's not much to look at anyway. I don't care as long as it's reliable. Think it will be. Grabbed some Winchester 165gr FMJ FN and Federal 180gr FMJ FN and hope to get out to the range this week.

    The only thing I can find wrong with it are two dings on the slide rails but I can clean that up. Looks like something heavy fell on the slide and got both rails opposite of each other. More of an annoyance than anything else.

    Any comments would be appreciated!
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    NO PICTURES IT DIDN"T HAPPEN :p
     

  3. yellowhand

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    Mine came from J&G

    Got mine from J&G same price and condition.
    Wanted a used Model 17, but took the 22 and used a lonewolf barrel and converted to 9mm, works great.
    Already had 25 Model 17 mags from a couple of trades and did not want another calibre to worry with.
    Had burned out nite sights, new ones on order.
     
  4. M14sRock

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    The PoPo trade in pistols are always a great deal. Lots of departments went away from .40s, so the guns end up sold. Most are carried a lot, and almost never fired.

    And as Yellowhand says, the Lone Wolf conversion barrels give you a great way to use 9mm out of your G22. Change the barrel, change the mag, and away you go.
     
  5. ki4dmh

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    You got a good deal. Post up some pics of your new toy!!
     
  6. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Thanks guys! I'll try to get pictures later but it's Mother's Day/family gathering so have to see how it goes. Really it's not much to look at! :p

    At the store I did break down both 22s and picked the one with less internal wear. Last night I gave it a good cleaning and all looks well. Think it's going to be a good pistol at a good price.
     
  7. General_lee

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    Congrats on the new purchase!
    Yeah, Glocks aren't much to look at, but they go bang every time, that's all that matters.
     
  8. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Well that's all I'm asking of it, General_lee. Can't agree with you more!

    One thing that surprised me is the trigger isn't double action. What's up with that - I thought in this politically correct world LE and military HAVE to have double action and a hammer/striker drop style safety. Heck this thing is basically cocked and locked like a 1911 but with NO real safety! :eek: And no long hard double action pull on the first shot like standard DA pistols and revolvers. Definitely gotta get used to that! Kinda embarrassing but I've never handled a Glock much before...

    Anyway good for Glock, they pulled one over on the idiots that push pencils, write regulations and wouldn't know how to operate a pea gun if you dropped one in their laps. :p

    Gotta say overall this gun impresses me, 15+1 of .40 caliber squeezed into about the size of 9mm form factor is quite a feat.
     
  9. General_lee

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    It took me a while to get used to the idea of "no safety" on the Glock, but it doesn't bother me anymore. Just be careful with it and treat it with respect (as you should with all guns), keep your finger off the bang switch until ready to fire.
    I see the lack of a manual thumb safety on the Glock as an advantage because there's less to fumble with in an emergency when split seconds count.
     
  10. allmons

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    +1 on what General lee said!

    Easy to maintain, east to shoot well with, decent capacity magazines and no bells or whistles to fool with!

    Draw and fire.

    What else could you want? Yeah, not pretty but VERY functional!

    :cool:
     
  11. M14sRock

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    The striker is in a neutral position until you squeeze the trigger. That pulls the striker to the rear. So, squeezing the trigger both cocks, and fires, the gun. Double action.

    Squeezing the trigger also disengages the firing pin (striker) block safety, as well as the cruciform sear plate/drop safety.

    Safeties on the Glock are in place until you squeeze the trigger. Booger hook off the bang switch=safe.
     
  12. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Well I admit I'm new at Glocks but assuming mine works like the rest I don't see how this can be called double action. The slide must be racked or the trigger cannot cock and drop the hammer. And it doesn't allow you to pull the trigger again to get double strike on the same primer on a misfire either. On paper Glock may be classified double action to satisfy legal staffs, etc. but it doesn't work like normal double action as I've seen in other guns.

    Not a knock against Glock, I'm ok with it, just can't call this double action.
     
  13. M14sRock

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    No sweat. I don't take it as a knock against Glock.

    The action you describe is what is referred to as "double strike" capability. Some pistols have it, and some don't. Just because the slide needs to cycle to re-set the trigger does not mean that it is not double action.

    A double action trigger is one that performs two functions. Cocking the gun, and firing the gun.
     
  14. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Well that's also my definition of double action but I don't see that the Glock trigger fully cocks the striker as defined in a true double action semiauto.

    No doubt Glock implies it is double action (except lacking the trigger reset) and agencies accept what they say but it's quite obvious that the Glock functions much more like a single action semiauto with basically 1911-like condition 1 or condition 3 readiness. If you could lower the striker on a live round for condition 2 carry there's no way to cock the striker except by racking the slide back slightly - again just like a single action trigger and no exposed hammer. No matter what anyone says, the Glock walks like and talks like single action. And that's fine by me, just like SA the trigger pull is the same on the first and subsequent shots instead of the heavy first pull for DA.

    Of course all we're talking about is the first shot only when double action comes into play except on DAO pistols.
     
  15. utf59

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    Glocks (and others, including Springfield XDs and Smith & Wesson M&Ps) are often referred to as being striker-fired to avoid just this kind of confusion. They aren't truly double-action, but they aren't single action, either.
     
  16. WannaGator

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    Congrats on the Glock purchase.

    I envy 'Ya as I'm between Glocks.

    I gave Dad my G30 as a Father's Day/Birthday gift.

    Just traded my used G29 10MM in on a Taurus PT-1911 .45 ACP.

    Would like to get a G21-C and another EAA Windicator .357 Mag/.38 spec( I think GOD is trying to teach me patience).
     
  17. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Thanks for the help guys!

    Finally took pictures of the G22. Not very pretty is she? :p But I think she'll be all right. Found a serial number database and the CCS prefix indicates a build date of December 1996.

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    Last edited: May 9, 2011
  18. ktmboyz

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    Not too bad of condition for gen 2. I believe its pretty much the same except for finger groves and tac rail. There are a few other minor differences but not that matter.

    Good score :cool:
     
  19. Quentin

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    Thanks again guys.

    One thing I've noticed on this Glock, the front of the frame/dust cover area is bent up to where it just barely touches the slide. You can see the gap between the frame and slide disappear toward the very front. Doesn't seem to affect anything but I wonder if someone got whacked in the head with this gun.
     
  20. M14sRock

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    I always look at all of the avail Glocks when I'm buying one to make sure the dustcover fits tightly to the slide. Helps keep out external debris. Sounds like yours is a good one.