Job or Personal Protection

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by silverado113, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    I picked up a part time job at a certain retail store to make some extra cash on the side. After 4 days on the job I'm getting promoted to a manager position which is nice but the problem is the company's firearm policy. Right now the job is part time and I don't need the money but with my full time job being a contract position I can walk in one day and it could be my last so it's nice to have a backup job so to speak. So my dilemma is do a carry or not? If I do and I'm caught I could lose the job. What would you do if you were in the same situation?
     
  2. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I would not carry. Because if you get caught breaking the company rules not only will you lose that job but I wonder if it will impair your ability to get a new job with that kind of history. I don't like to think of ruining my ability to earn an income.
     

  3. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Most of us are in that situation. Most companies have policies banning weapons in the work place either because some shistor lawyer thinks it will shield the company from liability or because the companies lawyer just copied the manual from the last place he worked.

    My philosophy is simple, gun bans not backed up with metal detectors, armed guards, and a secure perimeter, must NOT actually be rules but more like suggestions because no one, especially my employer, could be stupid enough to think that a policy is going to prevent human violence...right?

    If you CCW responsibly then no one will be the wiser unless your actually forced to fire, at which point loosing your job will be the least of your conerns.

    Tack
     
  4. PlaysWithZombies

    PlaysWithZombies New Member

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    It depends. How good is the job and how rough is the area?
    I was in a similar situation a few years ago, i live in PA and was offered a better job in NY, i hated the idea of leaving my gun at home every day but $10,000 more a year and 20 hrs more free time a week is hard to say no to lol.
    If the job is good enough i'd suggest investing some time in sharpening the weapon that is your own body, maybe not as good as a .45 but it's still pretty dam good lol
     
  5. Zodiac131911

    Zodiac131911 New Member

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    Jobs come and go you can replace them. Your life is not, but I would check on the legalities of carrying on the job before I did.
     
  6. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Well we haven't had an armed robbery and the area isn't that bad, but you never know. @ Tack the funny thing is another store had a manger fire and thwart an armed robbery and the company still fired him. I'm not too worried about losing the job since it is not a primary job need, it's more of a way to gain some extra capital for my business. @ zombie I know some MMA but my training days are done due to a back issue which is why I carry.
     
  7. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I hear you Silverado and it sounds like you've made your decision. Funny thing about the CCW is that given the "menacing" laws of most States and the fact that "if" you disclosed your CCW status to the wrong sort of sheeple, and it scared them, you could actually be charged it really makes your CCW not only a license to carry but a license to lie about it as well...So unless I'm asked by a uniformed LEO, the answer is "no, I don't carry a weapon, how about you?"

    Tack
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Its a personal decision. I dont carry at work because the odds of one of our mentally confused patients grabbing me and the gun getting into their hands is catastrophrically higher than being confronted with a madman on a shooting spree.

    Any other job and i wouldnt hesitate to carry regardless of employer policy. Thats my personal choice and in no way am i recomending it to you
     
  9. g17frantz

    g17frantz New Member

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    Tony you're kinda in the same position as me. My full time job has the same policy. I don't carry during the day but at night, I will. We are in kind of a bad part of town. If i get fired for defending myself, oh well fire me. I'm not losing my or employees life due to my job. Unless I am dying for my country, bet your a$$ I'll be carrying
     
  10. rebelcowboy

    rebelcowboy New Member

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    I suggest carry the heck with them or ask what will u do if something would happen to me what about my family time I lose from being hurt those types of questions make them rethink the decision
     
  11. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    It's not like it's essential, as a belt to hold up one's trousers. I have a Nano Vault car safe. That's where I leave mine when entering workplace.
     
  12. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have a similar problem. I live 40 miles from where I work, I drive through one of the worst areas in the State, and I work at a place where it is a felony to carry. The law says I can't have one in my car either.......

    I work around that by pooling with my wife and leaving my carry gun in her car. At work I feel naked, but you do what you have to do. I am still armed, just not with a firearm.
     
  13. levelcross

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    Evaluate the situation at work, is it a rough part of town or a mild to semi retirement area. The value of the job as a back up is also a factor, do they have posted signs or not, where in the company policy is the gun ban listed.

    Now for the other part, how well does your gun conceal?????? How likely are you to be made? It might be time for a pocket gun or a gun safe in the office. I would think thru all of your options and decide what is right for you. Good luck.
     
  14. partdeux

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    I don't carry even in my car to and from work. Just not worth the risk of the job I love. I actually fear more walking around my nice neighborhood, then in my employers parking lot.

    WRT retail, remember, the employer has chosen the risk of not hiring armed guards over the loss cash due to a robbery. It's not your money, it's not even the employers money, it belongs to the insurance company.
     
  15. Fathead00

    Fathead00 New Member

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    I always have mine with me or in my car when I'm at work.
     
  16. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Maybe the boss would pitch in on a kevlar vest? If not, keep it concealed and hope you don't need it. IMO
     
  17. PanBaccha

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    Unless you work for a prison then I suppose you cannot have firearm in car. But nowhere else does the law of Florida state you cannot have a firearm in your car.
    From my understanding of law you can have one but must be either in holster concealed, or/and in glove compartment.
     
  18. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I work at a University. About the same rules as a prison. There is disagreement about the technical issue of in the car; I don't want to be the test case.
     
  19. trip286

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    I've carried on most jobs I've had, regardless of company policy. But, most jobs I've had my biggest concern had to do with critters, and not the two legged kind. The only civilian job I've had where I wished I actually was armed, was the only one I can think of that I DIDN'T carry (securitas, contracted to cisco systems) I'm not packing right now because I haven't yet picked up a good IWB for my 1911, nor have I gotten a Louisiana permit. My MS is good here, but I'd rather have one issued in the state because I'm currently living here. I DO carry everywhere else though, just not here at the car dealership.
     
  20. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    It actually states in the employee hand book that you can't have a Weapon on the premise to include the parking lot. I'm going to carry a couple times with one of the lenient supervisors on duty and if nothing is said then I'll carry every time I work or at least in the car as some tasks may be a pain to carry out while carrying, like working on a battery.