well my wife tried. but sometimes i cant figure out her logic. lol. my birthday present arrived in the mail today and she insisted i look at it. she ordered 4 pint glasses engraved with my initials. at least she cares aenough to try. lol... im going to cross off the nikon bino's and burris spotting scope that have been on every birthday, and Christmas list for the last 4 years.. maybe then they stand a chance. oh well, we now have more glasses to drink from. yippy?