Is this gun going to kill me?

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by rsizzle16, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. rsizzle16

    rsizzle16 New Member

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    Hopkins and Allen single shot 12 falling block but its old as hell. The barrel has surface rust but no weld cracks or pits
     
  2. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Blackpowder gun though, right?
     

  3. unclebear

    unclebear New Member

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    pics please! and if it's "old as hell" then my guess is it used black powder shells I would not WOULD NOT! try shooting modern shells in it until you get a hell of a lot more information.
     
  4. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    Take it to a good smith. Have them check it out.
     
  5. rsizzle16

    rsizzle16 New Member

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    No it fires shells. sorry about the poor description I don't know much about it yet I bought it right before I left town so I haven't really studied it yet I'm just wondering if there is any things I should keep my eyes out for. I can post pictures and serial # tomorrow .
     
  6. rsizzle16

    rsizzle16 New Member

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    It looks solid and all the mechanicals work fine but like I said I can't really do much til tomorrow I'm just looking for red flags to keep my eye out for
     
  7. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    You hit the nail on the head..........You'll shoot your eye out if you ain't carefull, and maybe lose more than that...............Load it up with magnum shells, place in a tight vice, hook a string to the trigger, stand behind cover, then let loose.......If it doesn't blow up, then only shoot field loads in it.......:eek:;)
     
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Hopkins & Allen closed their doors in 1916. SOME of their guns were made to use shells LOADED with black powder. Some- like the double barrel I have, was made for smokeless powder.

    HOWEVER- 12 g shells were not always 2 3/4 inch shells (and no, you can't tell by trying to fit a shell in it. You need a chamber guage)

    SOME of those were damascus or "twist" steel- Rods of steel were heated, twisted around a core in a spiral, re-heated and hammer forged. I do not reccomend shooting those with ANYTHING.

    You REALLY need a gunsmith to look it over. And remember- any other advice would be scant comfort while sitting in the Emergency Room.
     
  9. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Damn, I think a falling block shotgun would be freaking sweet. I wonder if I could build one...
     
  10. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember ever seeing a falling block in 12 ga. I have seen 410 and some 44XL but nothing bigger.
     
  11. rsizzle16

    rsizzle16 New Member

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    I don't think it is a Damascus but I still need to look closely. And it's not a falling block that's another gun. I was planning on sticking a birdshot in it and hiding behind a tree
     
  12. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    I guess the original Win. '87 lever actions are falling blocks (tho they kinda roll). ...one in original 10 ga. and another rebarreled with a '97 tube in 12 ga. They would be used very differently...
     

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  13. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    Thanks,HockaLouis. I had completely forgotten about the Win lever shotguns(though I have never seen them classed as a falling block). My brother has a 1901 that I have shot many times.