Is this armor piercing?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Ruger22lr, May 23, 2013.

  1. Ruger22lr

    Ruger22lr New Member

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    I looked it up online and it's armor piercing. The store said it was also. What do you think of it? It's black tipped. [​IMG]
     
  2. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Ahhh, 7.62 X54R Russian?

    IIRC, against light armor, yes.
     

  3. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Rimmed, :)
     
  4. Ruger22lr

    Ruger22lr New Member

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    It's expensive too. $7 for 5 rounds and I have 15. I'm gonna shoot one and see how it does against steel plating.
     
  5. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Do you know where it was manufactured? Russian black tip is armor piercing. But Russia, Poland and Czechoslovakia also produced tracer ammo with a dark green tip. Those almost look like they ma ybe green tipped on my computer screen.

    Depending on the type and thickness of steel that you are shooting, the test may not tell you much. I've put 7.62x54R ammo that was not armor piercing through some mild steel plates with no problem at 100 yds.
     
  6. Ruger22lr

    Ruger22lr New Member

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    It says 188 on it and I check 7.62x54r.net and it is armor piercing. 188 is Klimov/Novosibirsk which is Russian. Yeah it does look green on the screen but I asked some people if it was black and they said it was. Not online but people I know.
     
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  7. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Don't know if I'd say it's piercing but it sure is loud!
     
  8. 25-5

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    How neat. Have fun making holes. Could this ammo damage the barrel?
     
  9. Ruger22lr

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    Yeah far as I know AP does ruin the barrel. My Grandpa said they were AP just by looking at them. He was in the Army so he does know more than I do about it.
     
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  10. JonM

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    ap doesnt hurt the barrel. the penetrator part is surrounded by lead which has either a steel jacket that has been copper washed in the case of russian ammo or copper jacketed in case of our ammo.

    what will hurt your barrel is tracers as the bits of phosphor residue are hot enough to melt barrel steel. small bits of tracer material like to flake off and leave pits in the bore.
     
  11. Ruger22lr

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    Oh thought AP would ruin it. I'm good then.
     
  12. jpattersonnh

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    That is a stepped tracer round, not armor piercing. If you went to 7.62x54r you should have known that.
     
  13. towboater

    towboater Well-Known Member

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    Dang Patterson. I like those pants.
     
  14. Ruger22lr

    Ruger22lr New Member

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    Figured it was probably just tracer. Oh well still fun to shoot.
     
  15. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It won't jharm your barrel in any way.

    "Back in the day" I fired several thousand M2-AP through a 1903A3 and a Garand for practice. (In the fifties and sixties M2-AP was dirt cheap)
     
  16. jpattersonnh

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    Called paint here!!
    All good! Just make sure it has just rained if you shoot in the brush.
     
  17. Dragonheart

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    An AP bullet will stick to a magnet, easy test.
     
  18. bigbomar4

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    Most Russian ammo will stick to a magnet. They use a copper washed mild steel jacket.
     
  19. farmallcrew

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    ive seen so many people see the black on the bullet and think AP right away. Magnet test is really the only test to see if it has a steel core other than shooting at a piece of steel. I buy range bullets, so many of the 30 cal are steel core, wash them up and reuse them because nothing is deformed on them.

    So many people can get a marker and make black marks on ammo. i saw a vender at gun show once, with a sharpie "making" AP ammo, i just laughed, but someone else saw it and told the show's promoter and they escorted him out with his stuff,
     
  20. ttsl

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    suckers who "think" that they want an old clunker bolt action for combat deserve whatever scams guys pull on them, in my book. A 10 year old kid can see that an autoloader is a much better choice. Why would AP matter, except for combat,hmm? You can plink with a .22 auto, so why shoot so much less (with the cost of any centerfire ammo)?