Is the gun you are about to buy, stolen?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by vector16, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    I found this site just because I was curious to know. If I were wanting to purchase a firearm on a private FTF basis I would want to check just for my own personal best interest if the gun was stolen. If I were to be stopped and the police officer ran the s/n and it was I would be going to jail. Here is a web site that anyone can run a firearm serial number to find out.
    http://www.hotgunz.com/search.php

    I hope this comes in handy for someone.
     
  2. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    That's not a bad idea, however it has the same shortcoming as most sites like it for stolen property.....it works solely on user submitted numbers. If you report your firearm stolen to the police, it doesn't go on that site. You have to go to that site and enter the information, which is the only time it would show for anyone else searching it. Thing is, most folks file a police report and that's it. Very few actually make a concerted effort on sites like that one. There is one for Iphones as well. You wouldn't believe how many people don't even have the serial numbers of their stuff written down. Like, I need to report a stolen (insert whatever, say S&W .357 revolver) What's the serial number? Uh, I dunno it's on the gun. :rolleyes:
     

  3. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    Wello, I can bet that you know what I have to say about that. If you don't have the s/n to your gun and you report it stolen, its the same as reporting a drop of water that you lost in the river. Its not a stolen gun. I happen to keep a list of serial numbers to every all the guns I own locked up, just the same as if they were guns themselves. I also keep a list of serial numbers of anything that has a serial number in my house, in the same place. If I report anything that is stolen and is worth stealing I give all the info I can. I don't think I would even report anything if I did not have that info. It like, "911, i need to report a burglery and they stole my TV, all I know is its a TV please put out an APB". if it pawned there is nothing to compare it to so therefore its not stolen.

    As I said though its an option or at least something that you can do that is easy, free, and conveniant without paying the $$ taking it to a police station, filling out paper work just to find you are going to get the gun taken from you and the money you spent gone at the bare minimum if you don't get arrested for "recieving stolen property". Just FYI.
     
  4. Sentry18

    Sentry18 New Member

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    There is nothing wrong with that site or checking before you buy used. But as an LEO I can assure you it takes some people a long time to produce serial numbers (if they ever do) on stolen guns. I can also assure you that someone who purchases a used gun without criminal intent is not going to get arrested for receiving stolen property, but they may find themselves without a gun or the money they spent on it. Better safe than sorry.
     
  5. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    exactly. I would not want to loose the money and the gun. I live in CA so I would not only go to jail, I'd get 15 years
     
  6. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    ALL gun sales in Kalifornistan are required to go through an FFL.
     
  7. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I would think that if you dont make a nusience of yourself the local pd could check. I manage a hotel. Someone left a gun in a night stand. I called the pd and gave them the sn to be sure before I returned it. They were happy to help. I am not talking about a high volume buyer bothering them twice a week.
     
  8. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    I know that. I have lived in KY and i have bought guns there. If I brought one back and got pulled over, they ran the s/n and if it was stolen I'd be in a heap of trouble.
     
  9. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    Then you either have enough guns or not a big enough bank account. Either way you need to reconsider your position.
     
  10. capto56

    capto56 New Member

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    That's why they have such a low crime rate!!! I never put the two together.
     
  11. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    Ya, sure. Tell the govener that
     
  12. NativeNoxcide

    NativeNoxcide New Member

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    I have a word document of everything I own with all the serials, it is in the fire face which is in my gun safe, where my guns have trigger safes. I like to be safe rather than sorry.
     
  13. molonlabexx

    molonlabexx New Member

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    Seems like a back door government portal to monitor which guns you own. How's that for a conspiracy? HaHa but in all seriousness, it is important to write down your markings, everyone of them, and take as many pictures as you can!
     
  14. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    Well no sh1t! I know that, I have mine written down with 3 copies, 1 in my gun safe, 1 in my fireproof documents cabinet, and a backup at my parents house in their fireproof documents cabinet. Not to mention I keep a digital record buried in the depths of my computer. I meant all the types that just ran out and bought something in the last three months. If I had a nickel for each one of them that didn't write down the numbers, I'd never have to work again.
     
  15. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    I thought that was is the hangun safety certificate that they give you when you pass the test to buy a handgun.

    1. Take the firearm home and read the manual.
    2. take a picture of the fireram.
    3.write down the serial numbers and store in a safe location. this is not nessessary to keep in the gun safe with the guns, infact it kind of defeats the purpose
    4. Field strip the firearm
    5. Clean all factory lubericant off the firearm.
    6. Be sure the serial numbers are in a safe place you can access them if you need them quickly.
    7. lube the firearm according to the manuals instructions.
    8. don't shoot yourself in the foot because you did not read the manual.

    I am not all that sure of the order these go in but I think I got mostr of them in there.
     
  16. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The whole Fairy Tale about tracing stolen guns is a fantasy. Firearms go thru dealers, pawn shops etc. everyday that are stolen. There are not enough people to monitor and track these stolen firearms.
    How many owners of stolen firearms ever have them returned? Very often when they are found it is only after they are used in crime? Does anyone really believe any government run program really works?:(
     
  17. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    so you would not take the chance to take 2 seconds and run a serial # even if you came up with a gun that was stlon and had a unsolved murder on it. even if there was a chance in hell i would rather waste my time then get caught red handed with a murder weapon or waste my money and then get caught with a murder weapon. that is a little harder to talk you way out of then just " i bought a stolen gun"?
     
  18. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Tell me how do you run a check on your guns? The only way you can run a check is thru the BATF or your local police. If the gun comes up stolen NCIC check the police will confiscate to gun and you will have to prove where you got it.
    Checking your numbers on a co-op web page is not likely very effective. By law if your gun comes up stolen you would have to surrender it to law enforcement.:(
     
  19. AR10

    AR10 New Member

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    Before you buy, check the numbers with a local police officer.
     
  20. vector16

    vector16 New Member

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    Whatever, I ran my not stolen gun and it came up not stolen. This was just an avenue for you to use. if you don't want to use it because you think or know it is a POS website then just ignore it and move on. I really did not expect people to tell me that I am a dimrod for even thinking about the trying to help others out with something that is easy to use. The next time I find something cool and can help I will just keep it to myself or maybe share it with GeneralPatton that at least said "That's not a bad idea" and then followed up with the other stuff as to how it works. Please forgive me for trying to save you some cash, going to jail, or just sharing to be a nice guy. It won't happen again. Hope ya'lll get that whatever you have had you eye on for a few years and it breaks or gets seized, or just in some way just does not go good for you.

    I guess the saying is correct, "No good deed goes un-punished".

    Have a night.